Hoppy Red Ale Hop Combo

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  1. OddNotion

    OddNotion Pooh-Bah (1,915) Nov 1, 2009 New Jersey
    Pooh-Bah

    I am looking to make an over the top bitter, yet citrusy redish ale. I am looking to use some of the more available hops around (not Simcoe, Citra, or the like). I have pretty much narrowed it down to wanting to use Centennial and Chinook. I have used plenty of Centennial in previous brews but so far have pretty much avoided Chinook for some reason so I am not too familiar with its taste/profile.

    I am just wondering if anyone has used these two as the only hops in a homebrew? Good or bad results? Should I consider throwing in some Nugget to round out the flavor?

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. mnstorm99

    mnstorm99 Initiate (0) May 11, 2007 Minnesota

    Chinook and Centennial play very nicely together in my opinion.

    I like the Chinnok as more of a flavor focus and the Centennial for aroma. Also, either of them work very well as a bittering hop.
     
  3. leedorham

    leedorham Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2006 Washington

    Chinook has a lot of bite to the flavor. I think that's what a lot of people perceive as "harshness." A 1/3 chinook/centennial combo for both flavor and aroma has worked well for me if you're set on using those two.

    Columbus is also pretty widely available and is a hop that's underutilized for flavor and aroma imho.
     
  4. mnstorm99

    mnstorm99 Initiate (0) May 11, 2007 Minnesota

    Agree 100%
     
  5. Jaysus

    Jaysus Initiate (0) Jan 16, 2003 Pennsylvania

    I just finished a hoppy red ale that was hopped with Chinook and Centennial... I think it turned out well.
     
  6. MMAJYK

    MMAJYK Initiate (0) Jun 26, 2007 Georgia

    Chinook gets very harsh and can be astringent, to me, if used as a bittering hop. I like Centennial as a bittering hop, and use the Chinook later on. If you want a very agressive bitterness, Chinook will enhance that.
     
  7. OddNotion

    OddNotion Pooh-Bah (1,915) Nov 1, 2009 New Jersey
    Pooh-Bah

    I think I am looking for that harsh bitterness on this one. I feel that every hoppy beer I make never has that strong lingering bitterness that I sometimes crave and I am hoping that Chinook can get me there. I cant for the life of me figure out why my other beers that are calculated over 100ibus still seem on the sweeter side. I mash real low, use minimal crystal malts, use a yeast that attenuates and flocculates well, add gypsum to my water which has nearly no mineral content, ferment cool. I am going to try to go for the harsh bitterness on this one.

    Thanks for the info!
     
  8. BMan1113VR

    BMan1113VR Zealot (726) Feb 6, 2008 California

    +1 and this year's columbus at my LHBS smells freaking amazing!

    I am also not that found of the cohumulone bite from Chinook.
     
  9. MMAJYK

    MMAJYK Initiate (0) Jun 26, 2007 Georgia

    I definitely think you are on the right track here, then. Chinook will give you exactly what you need in this instance, I'm pretty sure. Good luck with your brew!
     
  10. OddNotion

    OddNotion Pooh-Bah (1,915) Nov 1, 2009 New Jersey
    Pooh-Bah

    So I have read elsewhere that people like to cut the Chinook with Warrior (which I just so happen to have some on hand) at a 2:1 ratio as the bittering portion. I also have not used Warrior for bittering yet and was wondering if there was any input on this? Is Warrior a good bittering hop in that it is economical due its AAUs and its clean or will it help give it a little bite like I am looking for?
     
  11. SenorHops

    SenorHops Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2010 Rhode Island

    Just finished an IPA with Chinook for bittering and Centennial late. I would warn you to keep your bittering addition down if using Chinook with Centennial. Chinook can easily over power Centennials delicate flavors.
     
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