Hops and the Palate

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Kanger, Sep 10, 2013.

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  1. Kanger

    Kanger Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2013 New York

    I'm a big fan of hoppy beers that have a citrus/floral note to them.

    But I always notice when I give a beer like that to friends who are not big craft beer heads, they immediately accuse me of loving very bitter beers.

    Is this a case of my friends not being use to hoppy beers?

    Or is my definition of bitter just way off?
     
  2. YieldToNothing

    YieldToNothing Initiate (0) Mar 13, 2013 New York

  3. MikeWard

    MikeWard Grand Pooh-Bah (3,023) Sep 14, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Nest time they complain about bitter beer, give 'em a Founders Devil Dancer. That's about the most bitter beer I've ever had. :slight_smile:
     
  4. joelwlcx

    joelwlcx Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2007 Minnesota

    Sam Adams's Longshot DIPA... The one they brew a few years ago.
     
  5. SeanBond

    SeanBond Pooh-Bah (2,904) Jul 30, 2013 Illinois
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    My brother and girlfriend accused me of being hop-obsessed (which isn't inaccurate) every time they tasted one of the beers I was drinking, but my girlfriend has since then come around, and prefers them to the beers I pick out for her. So I would say that at least partially, yes, it is a case of your friends not knowing what to do with all the hops.
     
  6. xShoWTeKx

    xShoWTeKx Pundit (994) Jan 21, 2013 South Carolina
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    That beer was as sweet as candy to me.
     
  7. Averwo

    Averwo Initiate (0) Jul 4, 2013 Iowa

    I hated IPA's back when I only drank Coors Light. Then I started trying different IPA's and would force myself to finish the bottles. I learned to appreciate the different aspects of each one. Now I can't get enough. The only problem I have with IPA's and DIPA's is the high ABV and not being able to drink as many of those as I could Coors. :grinning:
     
  8. BeerWizard

    BeerWizard Pundit (889) Dec 22, 2012 Colorado

    I used to think all IPA's were bitter but now I do find more citrus, fruit, and floral flavors to them. But after like two I'd say the hop bitters start to dominate and I have to either switch to something else or stop drinking :grimacing:.
     
  9. ThirstyFace

    ThirstyFace Initiate (0) Jan 11, 2013 New York

    Nope, you're just awesome and in the know
     
  10. Dan269605

    Dan269605 Initiate (0) Jul 10, 2013 Connecticut

    It takes a while for the palate to get acclimated to bitter things and it takes some people longer than others. You have to ease into it and work your way up slowly.
     
  11. Ri0

    Ri0 Initiate (0) Jul 1, 2012 Wisconsin

    Give them a Stone Ruination. Or pretty much any Stone IPA. They seem to be the most bitter to me.
     
  12. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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  13. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    That's is awesome.

    I need that in my life somehow...a shirt, a sticker and poster. Yes, please.
     
  14. Crafty99

    Crafty99 Initiate (0) Mar 3, 2013 Massachusetts

    Gave my brother-in-laws a taste of Heady Topper, they thought it was the worst beer they ever had. But, they are BMC and Corona fans. Way too hoppy for them.
     
  15. jzlyo

    jzlyo Pooh-Bah (2,743) Mar 4, 2012 Iowa
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    I've found hoppy beers to be a matter of getting used to different craft beers. In the beginning I thought SA Boston Lager and even Shiner Kosmos were very bitter. Now I can notice the hops a little in SA BL and almost not at all in Shiner Kosmos. The more hoppy beers you have, the less you taste the bitter and more the actual flavor.
     
  16. JZ468

    JZ468 Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2012 New Mexico

    I think most of Stone's are too malty sweet.
     
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  17. Ri0

    Ri0 Initiate (0) Jul 1, 2012 Wisconsin

    Compared to what? What IPAs do you find bitter in New Mexico?
     
  18. xShoWTeKx

    xShoWTeKx Pundit (994) Jan 21, 2013 South Carolina
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    Ruinten was very sweet to me, Enjoy by and Ruination are still fairly hoppy though.
     
  19. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    I'm just going to say it: Hoppy ≠ Bitter.
     
  20. JZ468

    JZ468 Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2012 New Mexico

    I agree hoppy does not equal bitter. As for NM , LC Elevated all day. Also many Odell and OB IPA's tend to be less sweet than Stone I think. Also Ska Modus. And Sculpin. Just goes to show how diff't palates are. If you taste the bitterness of hops mostly, then it would make sense that you don't find the Stone beers sweet. The bitter balances it out. As for me the bitter component of the hop profile doesn't resonate as much, so the sweetness shows through. It's " a matter of taste" as they say. Subjective.
     
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