How do you make a wheat lighter without lowering OG?

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  1. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    To what style would you 'normally' add unmalted wheat for its starches? The most popular style that comes to mind that requires unmalted wheat (to be true to style) is belgian Witbier. And the unmalted wheat in a traditional Witbier is mashed. It is true that some people have been known to add a spoonful of wheat flour to the boil to get a starch haze. Bu that's a little different from the (presumably) larger amount the OP is contemplating.
     
  2. hopsandmalt

    hopsandmalt Initiate (0) Dec 14, 2006 Michigan

    If you really want to use flaked wheat here is a simple stovetop mash that you could do to convert it.
    1. Combine the flaked wheat with an equal amount of pilsner malt(crushed) in a grain sock
    2. Put it in a small pot that it just fits in and just cover it with warm water.
    3. Slowly heat it up to about 150F-155F
    4. Slap a lid on it, Wrap it in a towel, and let it sit for 30-45 min.
    5. Bam, it's converted! pull out the grain bag and dump the liquid in your brew pot.
    6. Proceed with normal extract methods.
     
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  3. BigJoeC

    BigJoeC Zealot (563) Jan 22, 2011 New Jersey

    Again.....I'm learning awesome things. Thanks!
     
  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Just so you know, what was detailed in steps 1 - 6 is a partial mash.

    Cheers!
     
  5. reverseapachemaster

    reverseapachemaster Zealot (722) Sep 21, 2012 Texas

    Depends on your purpose. For most brewers, unmalted wheat adds starches that will be converted, proteins and a different wheat flavor than malted wheat, such as witbier that you point out. So in that case, the unmalted wheat is adding starch for conversion first and foremost. For extract brewers it is one method to develop haze -- since conversion isn't an issue -- and flavor. It's not really one I advocate but I've seen it suggested by some extract brewers. It's also used in some traditional witbier processes and lambic turbid mashes where you can carry through some starches that don't convert and get consumed during secondary fermentation.

    I didn't see where OP indicated how much he would use. I certainly would not suggest using a lot of flaked wheat if not converting it but a small amount could be useful for his extract brew for haze, flavor and marginally for color. As I stated above, I would suggest other grains as superior options unless OP really wants that raw wheat flavor.

    Looking at my prior post, the first two sentences should not have been put together in the same paragraph as they related to independent thoughts.
     
  6. hopsandmalt

    hopsandmalt Initiate (0) Dec 14, 2006 Michigan

    Let's not scare this guy off with all sorts of complex terminology!:stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  7. BigJoeC

    BigJoeC Zealot (563) Jan 22, 2011 New Jersey

    I get the partial mash concept.

    I'm lookin to make a good, basic wheat beer that I can make 1 gallon of as a control. Then make a few one gallon batches adding things or changing the hops or grains. I'm experimenting but want to start with a good wheat beer first.
     
  8. reverseapachemaster

    reverseapachemaster Zealot (722) Sep 21, 2012 Texas

    At the heart of most wheat beers is a 60/40 split of wheat malt and barley malt (either pale malt/2 row or pilsner). You can adjust the percentage as you like but that ratio, or a similar one, is used for most wheat extracts. You could start out with a 100% wheat extract beer and adjust from there. You can do a lot of experimentation from there with different yeast, hops and specialty malts.

    You don't really say a lot about what you are looking for in the beer other than body, which shouldn't be a problem with that much wheat, and color. Color is probably the least important aspect of a beer. At very least it is for a brewer trying to get his feet wet. Maybe some description of what flavors you're looking for could help us guide you down the path you want to follow.
     
  9. BigJoeC

    BigJoeC Zealot (563) Jan 22, 2011 New Jersey

    A good, basic wheat is what I'm looking for at first. Using just a wheat extract is a great idea for a "control". I can then see what steeping different grains and flaked wheats might do. I also want to see how different methods of adding natural fruits works. I'm especially interested in raspberry. I want to try adding thawed frozen raspberry that is blended at flameout. I want to see how that same sort of purée works in just fermentation. Etc. but the extract base is the best idea.
     
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