How do you pronounce Rochefort?

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  1. stoutmasterjames

    stoutmasterjames Initiate (0) Mar 8, 2010 Maryland

    I was saying Ro-sha-fort.

    A buddy corrected me "Ro-keh-fort"

    I read online somewhere "Rosh-for"

    Anyone definitively know how to pronounce this?
  2. NickMunford

    NickMunford Savant (978) Oct 2, 2006 Wyoming

    I don't know, but I say "Rock-uh-fort".
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  3. mikeburd1128

    mikeburd1128 Zealot (514) Oct 28, 2011 New Jersey

    I've heard it pronounced "Rosh-Fare" and that sounded nice and fancy so I say that.
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  4. thewrongtone

    thewrongtone Initiate (0) Oct 15, 2006 Texas

    My understanding is that the Abbey is in French-speaking Belgium.

    The French pronunciation is undoubtedly Rōsh-for. The O is long, as in "know."

    Source: moi
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  5. tstigz

    tstigz Initiate (0) Dec 6, 2010 Illinois

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  6. stoutmasterjames

    stoutmasterjames Initiate (0) Mar 8, 2010 Maryland

    You see my predicament? There have been four different pronunciations posted thus far. Do you speak French, thewrongtone? Because your answer seemed the most definitive.
  7. anyother

    anyother Initiate (0) Oct 20, 2011 Ohio

    This is closest to correct in this thread. The IPA for the city is ʁɔʃ.fɔʁ R as in roue, O as the o in sort in english. che as the SH in shoe. F, o as in sort again, and that same french r at the end no T.
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  8. stoutmasterjames

    stoutmasterjames Initiate (0) Mar 8, 2010 Maryland

    Thanks. I guess I'll go with Rosh-for with a long "O" in "rosh" until someone else corrects me.
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  9. GoldenChild

    GoldenChild Disciple (339) Nov 18, 2009 Michigan
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    This is how I pronounce it too
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  10. anyother

    anyother Initiate (0) Oct 20, 2011 Ohio

    And when they correct you let them know that two people on the internet that speak french disagree with them. Cheers!
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  11. SoCalBeerIdiot

    SoCalBeerIdiot Defender (651) Mar 10, 2013 California
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  12. thewrongtone

    thewrongtone Initiate (0) Oct 15, 2006 Texas

    Yes. I minored in French in college.
  13. mactrail

    mactrail Poo-Bah (8,231) Mar 24, 2009 Washington
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    "Debit card declined"
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  14. ions

    ions Aspirant (271) Jan 28, 2014 Maryland
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    "Rock Fort" in any kinda bad accent I can't conjure up at the time :grinning:
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  15. edmaher

    edmaher Initiate (161) Jan 11, 2008 Illinois
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    Whatever they say when the answer the phone at the abbey.
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  16. TheSleepyMonkey

    TheSleepyMonkey Initiate (0) Apr 6, 2013 Tennessee

    I pronounce it "yes please"
  17. mtrutlin

    mtrutlin Initiate (67) Apr 4, 2012 South Carolina
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    It's pronounced "Roke-e-fore" (the e is more like an eh, not eeeee) There is a French cheese bearing the same name (which is equally as amazing as the beer).

    P.s., my wife is a French Professor and this is how she pronounces it. Pretty sure she's right.
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  18. ParkbrauFan

    ParkbrauFan Disciple (353) Feb 8, 2014 Iowa

    It is pronounced Rooshfour.

    The cheese is Roquefort
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  19. DrStiffington

    DrStiffington Meyvn (1,083) Oct 27, 2010 New Jersey
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    I also wonder how to pronounce "Uinta." Is it you in ta? Win ta?

    Edit: never mind. I just decided to google it.
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  20. LambicPentameter

    LambicPentameter Meyvn (1,485) Aug 29, 2012 Michigan
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    My trick for these hard-to-pronounce names is to use Google Translate.

    The key is that you have to select the correct language of origin before you use the audio component. Obviously, it won't always be as good as asking a native speaker, but it's a pretty good approximation in most cases.
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  21. MrWilliams

    MrWilliams Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2013 Arizona

    Whenever I Google a beer question I am invariably led to a thread on BA...
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  22. Flibber

    Flibber Initiate (0) Jul 27, 2013 United Kingdom (England)

  23. marquis

    marquis Crusader (762) Nov 20, 2005 United Kingdom (England)

    From my schooldays I would say that the final t should not be pronounced, that the stress is slightly on the first syllable and I would suggest roshfor or roashfor (I'm sure both these would be commonly used)
  24. nc41

    nc41 Poo-Bah (1,526) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I'm in for Roke Fort too.
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  25. Bradthoc

    Bradthoc Initiate (0) Jan 26, 2011 Nevada
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    Bartenders in Belgium always pronounced it "Rosh-for" with a long O. So, that's what I've gone with.
  26. Roguer

    Roguer Poo-Bah (3,003) Mar 25, 2013 Georgia
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    I've Googled it before, and came to this conclusion. I usually pronounce it as "Roke-eee," as a nickname, essentially, but "Roke-eh-fore" seems to be correct.

    I don't claim to be an expert, though; that's just what my class at the University of Google taught me. :slight_smile:
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  27. TheNightwatchman

    TheNightwatchman Zealot (520) Mar 28, 2009 Pennsylvania

    That's how I say it.
  28. busternuggz

    busternuggz Zealot (528) Mar 9, 2008 California

  29. paulys55

    paulys55 Zealot (587) Aug 2, 2010 Pennsylvania
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    Person on internet passes off opinion as fact:slight_frown:
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  30. Stugotzo

    Stugotzo Initiate (0) Jun 13, 2012 Florida


    (my fiance is from Belgium.... she concurs 100%... as do her parents)
  31. marquis

    marquis Crusader (762) Nov 20, 2005 United Kingdom (England)

    The middle e should certainly not be sounded, and in my hazy schooldays we would be taught to give the initial R a little flourish, like clearing the throat a little. say hrosh fort
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  32. GeddyLeeRocks

    GeddyLeeRocks Initiate (158) Oct 14, 2012 Pennsylvania

    I pronounce it "YUM"
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  33. Dirty25

    Dirty25 Initiate (0) Jan 22, 2012 Germany

    I'm going to the local Belgium bistro and ordering one to tomorrow to hear the translation
  34. MikeReserva

    MikeReserva Initiate (101) May 28, 2013 Netherlands
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    Like said before by others, it's like Rosh-For. Been to the abbey twice, and that's how the monk selling cheese calls it. Pretty basic French phonetics!
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  35. timotao

    timotao Disciple (393) Sep 16, 2013 New York
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  36. readyski

    readyski Aspirant (245) Jun 4, 2005 California
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    rowchhe fort!

    I like it, I need it
  37. GarthDanielson

    GarthDanielson Poo-Bah (4,734) Nov 6, 2010 Virginia
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    My wife and I had it for the first time years ago in Seattle, and the server seemed like he knew his shit, so we have always pronounced it the way he did, which is something like "Roe-sh-fer"
  38. Providence

    Providence Initiate (0) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island

    I feel bad for her students then.
  39. paulys55

    paulys55 Zealot (587) Aug 2, 2010 Pennsylvania
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    You probably should have titled the thread, "How does Rochefort pronounce Rochefort?". I think when you said "you", people thought you just wanted them to tell you how they pronounce it and not how it's actually pronounced.:flushed:
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  40. jimmy666

    jimmy666 Initiate (0) Jun 20, 2010 Maryland

    it is pronounced Ply-knee and if you don't say it right a grammar nazi will stab you.:grinning:
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