How do you pronounce Rochefort?

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  1. TurdFurgison

    TurdFurgison Pooh-Bah (2,965) May 29, 2005 Ohio
    Pooh-Bah

    I've personally heard "ROSH-FOR" in the vicinity of the abbey, but I wouldn't be surprised if others say it differently elsewhere in Belgium. Flemmish is just so different from French.
     
  2. mtrutlin

    mtrutlin Initiate (0) Apr 4, 2012 South Carolina

    Have to claim my ignorance here. That's how she pronounces the cheese. I just assumed the beer would be the same. Didn't realize the spelling was different. My bad. Good thing she's not on here cause she'd kill me for soiling her good name.
     
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  3. thewrongtone

    thewrongtone Zealot (743) Oct 15, 2006 Arkansas

    Cripes!

    How many people need to post rohsh-for?

    Unlike English, French (and all other Romance languages) has rigid phonetic pronunciation rules. Rules is rules. That is how it is pronounced correctly.

    Fin.
     
  4. utopiajane

    utopiajane Grand Pooh-Bah (3,982) Jun 11, 2013 New York
    Pooh-Bah

    I always get caught saying these kind of names wrong too. I say it Roach -e-fort. :flushed:
     
  5. Flibber

    Flibber Initiate (0) Jul 27, 2013 England

    The cheese is roquefort (rock-for).

    It is amazing though.
     
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  6. StuartCarter

    StuartCarter Pundit (922) Apr 25, 2006 Alabama

    Roquefort: pronounced "toodamexpensive"

    Rochefort: pronounced "getinmahbelleh"
     
  7. SeanCoughlin

    SeanCoughlin Initiate (0) Jul 3, 2013 New York

    Gordon Strong, president of the BJCP gives this pronunciation:

    Rochefort = ROWSH-for (swallow the 't')
     
  8. keithmurray

    keithmurray Pooh-Bah (2,967) Oct 7, 2009 Connecticut
    Pooh-Bah

    Roach - fort
     
  9. Dreizhen

    Dreizhen Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2013 District of Columbia

    From my personal experience, there is not consensus among French-speakers, even in Belgium. I haven't been to the abby, but essentially every bar I ordered it in, all over the country and in neighboring countries, had a different way of pronouncing it. I believe the difference in the Belgian v. Parisian accents of French really comes through with Rochefort. The Belgians I lived with mostly said Rosh-a-fare. The French people I stayed with generally said Roc-a-fare (soft, soft c).
     
  10. cestlavie

    cestlavie Initiate (0) Oct 27, 2011 New York

    Roak-eh-fore
     
  11. cestlavie

    cestlavie Initiate (0) Oct 27, 2011 New York

    agreed.
     
  12. 77black_ships

    77black_ships Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2012 Belgium

    Google is hit and miss but here the French one is pretty much it. Here you can hear the monks pronounce it, touch more Wallonian than France French if you know what I mean. I suppose that one can argue with how they pronounce it:

     
  13. 77black_ships

    77black_ships Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2012 Belgium

    Sounds totally anglicized to me.
     
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  14. Torch_Lake

    Torch_Lake Initiate (0) Aug 4, 2013 Ohio

    My fiance visited the brewery in Belgium (unfortunately before I met her), and confirms those associated with the brewery pronounce it "Rosh-fort," with a long "o" and the emphasis on the first syllable.
     
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  15. PSU_Mike

    PSU_Mike Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2013 Pennsylvania

    ROSH-fore

    Long first O, short second
     
  16. iguenard

    iguenard Zealot (594) Jan 30, 2006 Canada (QC)
    Trader

    The o is pronounced not like Oh!, but more like Uh. Rush-for is the best way if you roll your R's,
     
  17. iguenard

    iguenard Zealot (594) Jan 30, 2006 Canada (QC)
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    And yeah... its Rush not Rock... its ch not qu
     
  18. Stugotzo

    Stugotzo Initiate (0) Jun 13, 2012 Florida

    You're confusing a type of cheese (Roquefort) with cheese made by the Monks of Rochefort. But, yes, roquefort is amazing.
     
  19. luwak

    luwak Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2010 Arizona


    PLY-KNEEE
     
  20. Beric

    Beric Initiate (0) Jun 1, 2013 Massachusetts

    Pronunciations are always tricky for some people.

    I had a bartender at a craft beer bar (a really good one!) explain what his favorite mahrzin was, while someone else ordered a WEEN-steh-fan-er WHEEZE-in-bock and asked a question about gooz.
     
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