How important is refrigeration for hop forward beers?

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  1. DEdesings57

    DEdesings57 Pooh-Bah (2,556) Aug 26, 2012 New Jersey
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    Lets say there are 2 six-packs from the same brewery of some canned hop forward beer and they both have the same canned on/ best by date and they both have been in the store for 3 months. Neither beer is "old" but the difference is one has been sitting on the shelf and the other inside the refrigerator. How different will the two beers be? In other words how well will the shelf beer stand up against the refrigerated one? Since they are canned beers would you say either is just fine? How much does refrigeration sustain a beer?
     
  2. russpowell

    russpowell Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,292) May 24, 2005 Arkansas
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    I can't find the links, but the research sure seems to support refrigeration. I always try to go that route first even if I won't keep it chilled on the way home. In short it seems heat seems to break down the alpha acids quicker, unless I'm missremembering:confused:
     
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  3. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Well...
    See more industry quotes at Importance of Temperature in the preservation of freshness.
     
  4. jmasher85

    jmasher85 Savant (1,169) Mar 27, 2015 Maryland

    If they sell singles, take some home and do your own research.
     
  5. utopiajane

    utopiajane Grand Pooh-Bah (3,982) Jun 11, 2013 New York
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    I think that several threads have brought time frames into the facts on this. I can't remember the threads but it's about twice as long before the hop character to fade if properly refrigerated. It also depends on the method of hopping. dry hopping fades pretty fast. Beers that use the same hops to dry hop as they use in the boil I think are most successful in keeping the intended flavors for the longest amount of time. Some beers hold up remarkably and as you drink them regularly you will notice it.
     
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  6. Shroud0fdoom

    Shroud0fdoom Initiate (0) Oct 31, 2013 Maryland

    Let's put things in prospective: You have two Dead Bodies. One Chilled the other not Chilled. Which one would be better in better condition after Three months? What I'm getting at is Refrigeration helps to preserve the optimum condition of what you want preserved. Hop oils are delicate, so if left un-refrigerated expect hop drop within a month and half or less. I've found that each beer is different..depending on the Malt and Yeast Culture.
     
  7. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    I did that last year with a fresh 4 pack of Dirt Wolf. After 3 months it was obvious which was stored in the fridge and which one wasn't. Refrigeration definitely makes a difference with hoppy beers.
     
  8. emount91

    emount91 Initiate (0) Aug 28, 2015 Connecticut

    extremely extremely important, hop oils and flavors degrade rather quickly, the only way to slow down the process is to keep them stored cold at all times, constant temperature.
     
  9. tillmac62

    tillmac62 Pooh-Bah (2,859) Oct 2, 2013 South Carolina
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    The only way to properly store beer is COLD and free from light.
     
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  10. Ranbot

    Ranbot Pooh-Bah (2,463) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Assuming the container is sealed properly, the single most important factor in beer freshness is the temperature it is kept at. This has been confirmed by several professional brewers who post on this site.
     
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  11. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    At three months old they both suck. Seriously, that's the end of an hop forward beer's life.
     
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  12. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Enough studies have shown that hop character degrades over time, but more quickly at room temp. However, for the average person to be able to taste the difference? I don't know if it's possible. You can set up an experiment with your two beers to judge that for yourself.
     
  13. lateralusbeer

    lateralusbeer Savant (1,222) Feb 7, 2010 North Carolina
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    It absolutely matters. Amazing to me how many stores go to great lengths to get the best/rarest beers, then have their hoppy beers sitting in warm case stacks when we know for a fact that it degrades the beer.
     
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  14. DEdesings57

    DEdesings57 Pooh-Bah (2,556) Aug 26, 2012 New Jersey
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    Good to know. I can only fit so many beers in my fridge at a time and usually keep the rest in my room, and when Im done with the ones in the fridge I grab the ones from my room and put those in the fridge. Ive been finding that the ones I grab from my room have significantly less hop aroma but the taste is fine enough. We talking 2.5 month old beers here.
     
  15. DEdesings57

    DEdesings57 Pooh-Bah (2,556) Aug 26, 2012 New Jersey
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    Are you talking about hoppy beers on a dry shelf or refrigerated ones, or both?
     
  16. DEdesings57

    DEdesings57 Pooh-Bah (2,556) Aug 26, 2012 New Jersey
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    Also add in the fact the alot of liquor stores put the older craft beers in the fridge and keep the newer ones one the dry shelf. So by the time the newer ones get to say 4-6 months, they put those in the fridge since the other refrigerated beers have sold by then, and if enough time passes they put a sale on the item. So you cant even trust the refrigerated stuff 100% of the time either.
     
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  17. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    I don't know - I think the biggest myth believed by beer geeks is that ONLY "hop-forward" beers benefit from refrigeration and/or need to be consumer fresh. AB and MC both give their beers with around 10 ibu's a 4 month shelf life before their distributors are supposed to pull them off the shelves and replace them. For Coors, that's double what they recommended back in the 1970-80s.

    As the famous Dalgleish graph shows, there's a lot more changes going on with beer as it gets old than simply "hop fade":
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  18. JDW4195

    JDW4195 Initiate (0) Sep 24, 2014 Florida

    Most people (and most here would never admit) can't tell the difference. 3 months is absolutely insignificant to a beers shelf life. 80 to 90% of beers on the market are good out to at least a year refrigerated, and 6-8 months with no decrease in quality if kept room temperature. We just like to pretend, it makes us feel relevant.
     
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  19. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Grand Pooh-Bah (4,116) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona
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    Best to drink super fresh, as in first few weeks. Then there really isn't much of a difference to worry about.
     
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  20. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    Hoppy beers in general fall off. The beer in the cooler will be better, but at 90 days the hops are really fading with both.
     
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