How long in plastic is too long?

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  1. sts9fan

    sts9fan Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2015 Massachusetts

    I know this is going to be case by case but I am looking for opinions. Would you folks feel comfortable with a beer sitting in a 6.5gal plastic "big mouth bubbler" for three months? Its top up and I wonder if racking it would add more O2 then the permeability of the plastic will allow. Its not on a yeast cake and I hope in three months I will be able to split the batch for fruit. I don't have a glass 6.5gallon carboy but will pony up if need be.
     
  2. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    I wouldn't worry about it. Oxygen permeability is negligible compared to racking.
     
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  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    You would have to make some calculations utilizing some assumptions. I really don't know if anybody could provide an 'authoritative' answer here.

    I personally would not let my beer sit in a plastic vessel (that was not a Better Bottle type vessel) for 3 months.

    Cheers!
     
  4. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    Some people say their big mouth bubbler has a leaky lid.
     
  5. sts9fan

    sts9fan Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2015 Massachusetts

    I dont think its leaking due to an occasional bubble. Im gonna risk it.
     
  6. jnrjr79

    jnrjr79 Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2009 Illinois


    Is the plastic from a Big Mouth Bubbler more permeable than Better Bottle? Or do you just assume more O2 due to the size of the opening?
     
  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Better Bottle is made of a special type of PET to make it less permeable to oxygen.

    Northern Brewer just mentions PET on their website for the Big Mouth Bubbler; there is no mention that is a special PET to minimize oxygen permeability.

    If you want some 'gory details' I highly recommend that you read this thread: http://www.beeradvocate.com/communi...ken-out-of-brett-in-bucket-discussion.248425/

    Cheers!
     
  8. ssam

    ssam Pundit (997) Dec 2, 2008 California

    The one time I left a beer in a plastic fermenter for 3 months it became infected. Post hoc ergo propter hoc, the argumentative fallacy, says I shouldn't conclude that is necessarily the reason so I'll let you draw your own conclusions.
     
  9. machalel

    machalel Initiate (0) Jan 19, 2012 Australia

    I've kept a brew in a plastic fermentor for ~18 months and it was one of the best I've made... but it was a sour :grinning:

    The longest I've kept a 'clean' beer in the fermentor was a Porter that I left for ~6-7 weeks in the primary (unforseen complications meant I couldnt bottle). Last bottle was drunk ~18 months later and had noticable but very minimal oxidisation.
     
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  10. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    The 'good news' is that dark beers like Porters have some anti-oxidation properties due to the use of dark malts in brewing them.

    Cheers!
     
  11. sts9fan

    sts9fan Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2015 Massachusetts

    Well this has pedio and lacto already so no chance of infection.
     
  12. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I try not to go past 6 weeks in my buckets. I don't do sours though.
     
  13. jnrjr79

    jnrjr79 Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2009 Illinois


    This is where I fail to resist to make the snarky joke that it's actually a 100% chance of infection.

    Just an intended one.
     
  14. bgjohnston

    bgjohnston Initiate (0) Jan 14, 2009 Connecticut

    I go up to 6 months in plastic with my one "sour" bucket. I also leave some of the dregs in the bucket when I rack and re-pitch on them. Makes a very nice Flanders Red, and has done so three times so far.
     
  15. jae

    jae Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2010 Washington

    I had a lambic in primary (bucket) for 9 months. Best beer I ever made.
     
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