How long is too long?

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by Best_Enjoyed_In_Texas, Feb 13, 2016.

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  1. Best_Enjoyed_In_Texas

    Best_Enjoyed_In_Texas Maven (1,420) Aug 24, 2015 Texas
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    I've got, what I consider, a very well stocked cellar of BBA beers by several different breweries. While I tend to know way more about craft then most of my social circle, I find that in this community my knowledge is dwarfed by a lot of more seasoned craft BAs.

    That said, I'm beginning to wonder what is consider "too long" to age a BBA brew???

    This was brought up in another thread by a user who stated he's been drinking much of his BBA inventory before they age "past their prime". I also know at some point wine can start to decline with too much age, so this makes some sense that beer would operate the same way.

    Anyone who has working knowledge on this topic and is willing to share, I greatly appreciate. For what its worth, here are a few BBA beers that I currently have in cellar:

    - 2015 BBA Ten Fidy
    - 2015 BA Narwhal
    - 2014 BBA Big Foot
    - 2014 BBA Old Raspy
    - 2014 & 2015 BCBS
    - 2015 KBS
    - Prairie Noir, Pirate Noir, & Christmas BOMB!
    - 2014 Avery Uncle Jacob's Stout
    - 2014 Avery Rumpkin
     
  2. Lazhal

    Lazhal Pooh-Bah (1,890) Mar 13, 2011 Michigan
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    I wouldn't be too worried about drinking down a cellar of 10 beers. Some folks here call that Tuesday.
     
  3. Best_Enjoyed_In_Texas

    Best_Enjoyed_In_Texas Maven (1,420) Aug 24, 2015 Texas
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    Maybe i should have mentioned, i have multiples of each and thats just a small sample of everything i have.

    Cellar is about 60 bottles deep and I only drink 3-4 days/week.

    'Course maybe some folks call 60 bottles a Tuesday.
     
    #3 Best_Enjoyed_In_Texas, Feb 13, 2016
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  4. asams10

    asams10 Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2014 North Carolina

    I think it really depends on a number of factors and no one can tell you exactly when to drink something as your palate will determine at what age you like the beer best. That being said, here a few things to consider, in no particular order:

    1. Cellar temp - if you're keeping your cellar cool (55 or so degrees F) then your beers should last longer than they would at room temp or with fluctuating temperatures that might occur in a garage without temperature control. I don't think this has as much effect as the general public seems to believe. The only thing that really would ruin a beer quickly is exposure to high temperatures and/or direct sunlight. I think a lot of people here use their closet as their cellar (myself included) and have no problems. The difference between cellar temp and room temp may be a matter of a few months.

    2. Adjuncts - beers like KBS and Christmas Bomb that are known for their adjunct flavor may not be the same in a year or two. Coffee and spice will fade over time

    3. Type of cap - cork vs cap. Regular caps are not 100% airtight, and will allow some air to penetrate the bottle and lead to oxidation. From what I understand, corks are better for aging and keeping air from penetrating.

    Remember to store your bottles upright to ensure the least amount of liquid is exposed to air as possible.

    FWIW, personally, I would drink the KBS, Christmas Bomb, and Uncle Jacob's within the year.
     
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  5. Best_Enjoyed_In_Texas

    Best_Enjoyed_In_Texas Maven (1,420) Aug 24, 2015 Texas
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    Awesome! Thats all really great advice. Thanks @asams10
     
  6. asams10

    asams10 Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2014 North Carolina

    I meant to add this:

    Last year I was sent a 2012 Goose Island Big John. Tasted like I was licking a cardboard box (a sign of oxidation). Later in the year, someone brought a 2001 Rogue Imperial Stout to a share. The beer had almost no signs of oxidation and was actually one of the best of the share.

    Moral of the story: there's not really any way to tell that a beer is past its prime. My advice is buy a couple or few of each, try one fresh, always, and then try one 6 months to a year later. You'll know if you like what it's becoming and want to continue aging or if you prefer it fresh(er).
     
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  7. Raj

    Raj Maven (1,272) Jun 25, 2014 Illinois
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    Even though most bba beers age really well, you never really know how a beer is going to change over time until you try it. There can also be a small bottle to bottle variations (infection, a leaky bottle cap that speeds up oxidation) that you wouldn't notice fresh, but will change things drastically over time. I don't think there is a right answer as to how long to age a beer, but the advice above about cellar conditions and not aging beers with adjuncts is spot on.

    Also I really enough the title of this thread, strong work op.
     
  8. HighWine

    HighWine Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2010 Illinois

    Generally speaking most beers, even many of the ones you listed are best consumed as close to the bottling date as possible. (This coming from a guy with 200 bottles in his cellar. I don't drink fast enough, I guess).

    When aging beer first started becoming popular, the rule seemed to be 2-5 years. In my experience I've found that I get disappointed more often than not if aging beers beyond 2-3 years. Not all beyond that are terrible but a lot of times taste past their peak or less desirable than fresh. I generally age beers if there is a strong characteristic like heavy booze, disjointed flavored, or too much sweetness that I want to mellow out before drinking. I read reviews to see what people are saying about recently opened vintage bottles or look for aged editions on tap to try periodically.

    Of the bottles you listed I think you'd enjoy all of them the most sooner rather than later. Bigfoot and BCBS are your best candidates for extended aging even up to 10 years or more.

    Enjoy!
     
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  9. BeerGreg

    BeerGreg Savant (1,159) May 17, 2013 Illinois

    What about Hopslam? Yay or nay on againg that? Thx bye
     
  10. HighWine

    HighWine Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2010 Illinois

    Aging Hopslam is not a good idea now that they've switched formats from bottles to cans. Any picture of a multi-year vertical is just going to look silly. Try Treehouse hops for consistency. :wink:
     
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