How long to cellar Founders Breakfast Stout?

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by BrandonOakes, Dec 14, 2013.

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  1. BrandonOakes

    BrandonOakes Initiate (0) Aug 2, 2013 Pennsylvania

    So I have now had FBS at 1 year, 6 months and fresh. Personally, I find the one year to be best because I prefer a lesser coffee taste. What is everyone else's take on the development of flavors?
     
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  2. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2010 California

    Definitely fresh.
     
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  3. beerjerk666

    beerjerk666 Poo-Bah (3,259) Aug 22, 2010 Florida
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    I will let you know in a year :wink:.
     
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  4. Reappropriated

    Reappropriated Initiate (0) Aug 6, 2013 California

    Usually when this topic comes up people split into two camps. Those that like strong coffee will tell you that anything other than fresh is an abomination and an affront to this great beer. Those that prefer more muted coffee flavors will tell you a year does amazing things to this beer. It is sort of up to you, and like most things, the answer is probably somewhat in the middle.
     
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  5. Casedogg43

    Casedogg43 Disciple (313) Jan 4, 2012 Indiana

    Too easy to get.
    Drink it fresh!
     
  6. Superflyjsc

    Superflyjsc Initiate (156) Dec 6, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    I had a fbs after about 10 months in the fridge. Definitely tasted kinda stale and lost its delicious expresso notes. Would not cellar FBS again. Fresher the better.
     
  7. nuggetlover

    nuggetlover Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Don't let it go past 9-12 months at the most. Gets a little flat / watery.....
     
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  8. striker2160

    striker2160 Disciple (347) May 5, 2013 Minnesota
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    Fresh for sure coffee falls off rather quickly. I can already tell the difference.
     
  9. LuisQ

    LuisQ Initiate (0) Jan 9, 2013 Florida

    votes are in.
     
  10. BrettHead

    BrettHead Initiate (0) Sep 18, 2010 Nebraska

    0 days..unless you hate coffee and therefore shouldn't be buying a coffee stout.


    Side note: Founder's themselves says don't age FBS or KBS. But what would they know.
     
  11. DLDlulz

    DLDlulz Initiate (115) Feb 15, 2012 Illinois
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    Drink fresh. Old coffee beers get that green pepper flavor. Well that's what happened to 2yr old WakeN'Bake
     
  12. Ieatlambfries

    Ieatlambfries Zealot (592) Dec 5, 2003 New Jersey

    Fresh. I like the coffee flavor to be strong. It is one of the hallmarks of the brew after all.

    But of course, to each his own.
     
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  13. Infinite1

    Infinite1 Initiate (0) Jul 2, 2010 Illinois

    I like it fresh
     
  14. pmoney

    pmoney Crusader (778) Apr 15, 2011 Illinois

    If you don't like the coffee in it, why not just buy Founder's RIS instead?
     
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  15. errantnight

    errantnight Savant (952) Jul 7, 2005 District of Columbia
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    It is not true for most things that the answer is somewhat in the middle. This would imply that for most things, there is a strong conversational dichotomy with two equally valuable or worthless sides. It is in fact rare to find such a thing. This rather insidious line of thinking, that you should expect to hear two opposing sides of an argument, that both arguments will be valuable, and that they represent the extreme ends of a line of arguments for which a middle one clearly represents something closer to truth, is the source of a lot of issues with our societal discourse, IMO.

    Here, for example, there are so many variables that it's ludicrous to suggest that the beer is probably best, and probably best for the poster, simply because some people argue that it's better fresh and others that it's better aged to drop the coffee out. So because many people, anecdotally, prefer a beer with a ton of coffee and others with just a touch, you think that both sides would be pleased with something that has SOME coffee? That's ridiculous, it's not a zero sum situation. People who like it fresh will prefer it fresh, people who prefer it with some age will probably appreciate it at whatever they consider ideal, not an arbitrarily selected midway point between those two. It's astonishing how powerful the pervasive bullshit of the dichotomy is that you could say, with a straight face, that when this topic comes up it's clear that there's two camps who are each enjoying this beer at different ages but in fact the truth is that a compromise would be best because everyone knows compromises / midway points between diametrically opposed arguments are ALWAYS superior.

    If you're trying to offer bland, offend-no-one, advice, then the answer is clearly: buy a couple six packs and drink them steadily over time to find out for yourself.
     
  16. Reappropriated

    Reappropriated Initiate (0) Aug 6, 2013 California

    Wow, just wow.

    The facts are that the coffee will fade over time, and lots of people say drink it fresh, and lots that say age, which was all I originally said. Other than that, do you have anything to add to this discussion?
     
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  17. Lutter

    Lutter Zealot (578) Jun 30, 2010 Texas
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    I've had this in various ages... I believe the oldest being an 08' this year.

    I say... just drink the damn thing fresh if you like the coffee... because after 2 years or so, there's not much (if any) left and it turns into a chocolate bomb. If you like chocolate stouts, you might be into aging it.

    It's so cheap... buy a 4-pack and stash it away. drink one every year and decide how you like it. I wouldn't go more than 4 years though, IMHO.
     
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  18. cavedave

    cavedave Poo-Bah (3,102) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    TLDR version. Those who like coffee drink fresh, those who don't, drink it with age to mellow coffee flavors. Don't assume that somewhere in between is better, in this case it isn't.
     
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  19. errantnight

    errantnight Savant (952) Jul 7, 2005 District of Columbia
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    Thanks for the executive summary, Dave!
     
  20. errantnight

    errantnight Savant (952) Jul 7, 2005 District of Columbia
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    Yeah, a whole bunch. I even wrote a post about it if you'd care to read it.
     
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  21. StubFaceJoe

    StubFaceJoe Aspirant (285) Nov 24, 2011 Colorado

    No... That's this year's batch.
     
  22. StubFaceJoe

    StubFaceJoe Aspirant (285) Nov 24, 2011 Colorado

    I'd say somewhere in between is actually the worst. Fading coffee flavor sucks bad. Coffee gone is not so bad but why not just buy a chocolate stout?
     
  23. JonnyBeers

    JonnyBeers Disciple (345) Oct 24, 2012 Canada (BC)

    Age it in your car trunk until you get home.
     
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  24. I_Like_Beer

    I_Like_Beer Initiate (0) Oct 31, 2013 New York

    Fresh. That coffee flavor is unbelievable and the reason why I like it as much as I do.
     
  25. schmidtmattsays

    schmidtmattsays Initiate (0) Jun 12, 2013 Illinois

    Just drank a 2012 BCBCS and got exactly that green pepper flavor
     
  26. Dave_Treat

    Dave_Treat Meyvn (1,070) Jun 23, 2012 Virginia
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    Drank a 12 and 13 FBS side by side a couple weeks ago. Almost identical taste, no coffee flavor loss at all.. both were extremely good. Has anyone else done a side by side? Maybe with older than a year?
     
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