How long to cellar Wilds, Sours, Gueze etc....

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by Jjski, Nov 28, 2013.

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  1. Jjski

    Jjski Zealot (632) Nov 2, 2013 New York
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    I'm increasing my supply of the above beers
    Examples: Perennial Savant Beersel, Gueze Marriage Parfait 2009, Oude Tart, Sour in the Rye, L'enfant Terrible, Ommegang Wild At Heart, Boulevard Saison Brett

    Those of BA community that enjoy these I ask thee: I your opinion, when do these beer reach their peak? I'm cellaring for the reason of letting the beers grow and expand. I don't want to hold on to them forever.

    My cellar runs 53F winter to 60F summer.

    Thanks in advance!!
     
    #1 Jjski, Nov 28, 2013
  2. steamboatbrewer

    steamboatbrewer Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2012 Colorado

    well one of my distributors said that trinity out of colorado springs will take back any "expired" beer and the dates given to me were 7 years on the sours and 20 on the saisons.
     
    #2 steamboatbrewer, Dec 1, 2013
  3. JasonLovesBeer

    JasonLovesBeer Initiate (0) Mar 27, 2013 Canada (BC)

    Saison Brett there is no need to wait, it's as good as ever. But its brett character may increase - I'd say from now to 2 years from now is when I'd crack that.

    Sour in the Rye also good right now, will last very well - I'm planning to keep my second for about a year and give'r at that time.

    The rest I haven't had, but I'm certain they will all be excellent right away so if you only have one of each, just pick 'em off as you have the chance. Wait until you get a few of something to bother sitting on for any length of time.
     
    #3 JasonLovesBeer, Dec 2, 2013
  4. MasterCraft

    MasterCraft Initiate (0) Sep 2, 2012 Massachusetts

    old SitR is gross
     
    #4 MasterCraft, Dec 2, 2013
  5. olympuszymurgus

    olympuszymurgus Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2009 California

    Marriage parfait will last decades.

    The rest? 2-4years tops.
     
    #5 olympuszymurgus, Dec 2, 2013
  6. Jjski

    Jjski Zealot (632) Nov 2, 2013 New York
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    Thanks again! Had the Saison Brett last night: it was fabulous. I think I will I will start on the others.

    Please excuse my ignorance on the topic: Does the character of a gueze change, or do they just hold well for decades?

    I am familiar with the goals of aging stouts, barleywines, etc. What constitutes a great aged gueze?
     
    #6 Jjski, Dec 4, 2013
  7. ManforallSaisons

    ManforallSaisons Pooh-Bah (1,554) Mar 20, 2008 Belgium
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    IMO and limited experience, the gueuzes bed down, the tartness mellows, complexity rises, jangly edges round off and they just get better with a couple years. I don't think I've had a Marriage Parfait of considerable age, though.
     
    #7 ManforallSaisons, Dec 4, 2013
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