How long until Treehouse is replicated?

Neither is Treehouse.

 

Wish I could get my hands on more of Grimms beers. The distributor I order from doesn't ever have ANY in stock.

 

Reading is a skill. He didn't say TreeHouse was.

 

I feel the exact opposite. Everything I've had from Tree House has been amazing and Trillium has been solid but not quite on the same level.

 

I've said it before and will say it again. I don't think you can make an IPA in the Treehouse or Trillium style and distribute it. I just don't think it will work. These beers (and HF and others) rely on an uber freshness, an almost raw flavor profile. I have never once had any beer that spent any significant time in a truck, and then on a shelf, that tasted anything like it. If it was possible, somebody would be doing it already.

I'm not talking about the 10 minutes it takes Lawson's to get to the Warren Store, or the hour or two that Heady is on a truck, before sitting in a cooler for maybe a few more hours. I mean days on a truck and weeks in a warehouse, before spending likely more weeks on a shelf. Beer is a natural, perishable product. What these guys are doing is no different from "farm to table" with food.

 

I don't follow...

This guy gets it...

 

I don't really ever see a widely distributed brewery replicating them. It's all an opinion and personal taste thing, but Tree House beers are just superb and I've never had one I didn't absolutely love. Grimm is really good, but limited distribution. For me, it's still a more limited distribution, but I love a lot of the beers that Singlecut are putting out. Much easier to find than Grimm and no 1 bottle or 2 can limits on it. The half stack and full stack are superb. If you want a super cloudy, thick, pungent brew like some of the TH ones then Mo Shuggie is great. Laughter and Bon Bon both good too.

 

Two Roads / Lawsons I can see eventually doing this with SOS. I dotn think anytime soon but there the only brewery I can think of that can right this very moment.

 

Beat me to the punch, that is exactly what I was going to say. It pays to read the whole thread if you have the time to.

 

This is absolutely untrue. Mash tun size, lautering method, kettle size/shape, and fermenter geometry all play a much bigger role in the final outcome than most people realize. It's pretty much the main reason you can't just scale up a recipe and have it taste the same. The only way to truly replicate a beer is to replicate the entire brew house.

 

I wish this was true. Then i wouldnt have to drive 4-6 hours to get hillfarm quality beers.
Yes, hype is hard to replicate but good beer will bring HYPE

 

I'm not sure thats all true... Or else how do you explain the same beer being brewed at two different breweries and having it taste the same?

 

Replicating an exact brew at two different breweries on different equipment IS difficult. Immediately Alpine comes to mind and their brews at GF, which are very noticeably different.

 

Green Street from Other Half/Trillium blew Julius out of the water in a side by side for me

 

Maybe, and SoS is very good. It isn't however, really one of those uber fresh, nearly raw tasting beers like Julius or Melcher Street. Nor is Heady Topper really, and Sip is closer to that profile.

 

Or change the ingredients and procedures (together those are the recipe) to get a flavor match. How do you think breweries do it when they put in a bigger brew house and larger fermenters?

 

Well...To be fair, it probably is impossible to match the flavor of "rare"

 

Living close to toppling goliath I was hoping they could match their IPA game...but unfortunately it isn't even close...they are good, but not on the same planet

 

If Grimm makes it all the way out to Missouri, I would say it is widely distributed.

 

What? You want good beer to be difficult to get and to have limited distribution? That makes zero sense.