How many taps is too many?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by lateralusbeer, Jan 20, 2016.

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How many taps can a bar have where you as a consumer still feel confident that most/all are fresh?

  1. <10

  2. 10-24

  3. 25-40

  4. 40-60

  5. 60+

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  1. lateralusbeer

    lateralusbeer Savant (1,222) Feb 7, 2010 North Carolina
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    What is the most taps a bar can have before you start to feel worried about getting an old beer, or refrain from ordering IPAs and other time sensitive beers?
     
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  2. lambpasty

    lambpasty Initiate (0) May 3, 2013 New Hampshire

    I think it depends on the bar. I've been to plenty of taphouses that have 80-100+ and have no freshness/tap line issues because the place puts a big emphasis on the beer, and then on the other hand I've been to small places with 6 taps that have been dirty/flat/old/etc.
     
  3. Nittybeat

    Nittybeat Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2015 California

    As much as I love a huge selection, it has happened too many times now that I have been served a beer that is either off, old, or is obvious the taps are not clean from places that have 50+ taps. Its disappointing
     
  4. Jmorey

    Jmorey Initiate (0) Feb 10, 2015 Michigan

    I think it depends more on the quality of the establishment. Hopcat here has 100 taps and Hopcat Detroit has 130. I have no worry that I am going to get a less then quality beer.
     
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  5. tillmac62

    tillmac62 Pooh-Bah (2,859) Oct 2, 2013 South Carolina
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    It depends on the place and the beer traffic.
     
  6. BMBCLT

    BMBCLT Grand Pooh-Bah (3,427) May 9, 2014 South Carolina
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    No such thing!
     
  7. Tunerstyle63

    Tunerstyle63 Initiate (0) Jul 3, 2014 Illinois
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    Is 180 to many? :grinning:
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  8. Gtwreck45

    Gtwreck45 Pundit (850) Jul 5, 2014 Missouri
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    No doubt there are places that handle 100+ taps appropriately, but if I walk into an unfamiliar place and they have more than 25 or so taps, I am not confident that I'm getting fresh beer. At these places I'll usually opt for styles that don't fall off quickly to be safe.
     
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  9. BenGap

    BenGap Initiate (0) Mar 28, 2015 Alaska

    Just depends on the bar. If it is a place just trying to hit a high number of taps to score off the craft beer trends then I would worry. I've seen places that run 100 taps and you know it's not a worry because traffic is such that the beer menu is electronic just to keep up with the constant turnover.
     
  10. beerluvr

    beerluvr Pooh-Bah (1,900) Jan 2, 2001 Canada (ON)
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    I'd say 10-24 is safe given they're properly looked after. Been to too many "Over 100 Beers On Tap!" type places and have gotten burned...more than once. But as usual: Caveat Emptor.
     
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  11. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Lots of good posts in this thread. The 'bottom line' is that as long as the bar has sufficient traffic (lots of craft beer customers) they can have a HUGE number of taps and the beer will be of high quality.

    There is a rule of thumb that once tapped a beer should be consumed in a set period of time (e.g., a month). If the beer bar has lots of passionate customers those kegs should be kicked fairly quickly.

    There is also the fact that many craft beers come in sixtels vs. half-kegs. It does not take long to kick a sixtel since it only contains about 5 gallons of beer.

    From my perspective the larger issue is maintenance of the beer lines. Beer lines should be cleaned regularly (e.g., every couple of weeks) to eliminate unwanted microorganisms (e.g., bacteria) from those lines.

    Cheers!
     
  12. lateralusbeer

    lateralusbeer Savant (1,222) Feb 7, 2010 North Carolina
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    By simple math, yes. Unless they are just balls to the wall packed 7 nights a week.
     
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  13. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,285) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    Honestly, it depends on the bar. If they're busy, then they could have up to 100 taps. If it's a pretty slow going, small bar, 10 is good.

    I saw a bar in Fort Collins with 100 taps, but the selection was rotating so fast, you knew all of the kegs were fresh.
     
  14. stickboy1125

    stickboy1125 Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2012 Virginia

    Assuming craft only, I don't need more than 20-25 choices (even 10 is fine). I much prefer a rotating tap list over a tap list with pretty much the same 100 beers on tap all the time.

    One of the things I love about Ocelot Brewing is they don't brew the same beer 2x so there is always something new on tap.
     
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  15. bluehende

    bluehende Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2010 Delaware

    I will agree with some. As many as you can handle that lets your beer move in a timely fashion.
     
  16. Tdizzle

    Tdizzle Initiate (0) Dec 19, 2006 California

    I'm going to change gears here, slightly. I generally dislike places with an enormous tap selection because I've experienced several incidences in which the waitstaff have no idea which "special" and/or rotating/seasonal taps they have. I'm always interested in the rotating/seasonal drafts, and I am almost always met with befuddlement when I ask what they are; and they are almost never listed on the menu. That blame falls on the establishment, for not informing their waitstaff of which off-menu beers they offer. Fewer taps (10-25, etc.) = less chances of my server rolling their eyes at me.
     
  17. VictorsValiant

    VictorsValiant Pundit (775) Oct 14, 2014 Oregon

    I miss Hopcat. I miss crackfries.
     
  18. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    My personal cutoff is around 40-50. Gives you plenty of variety, plus enough space to have several of popular styles at a time so folks can try beers side by side.
     
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  19. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    If the bar owner can figure out how to handle the logistics and the storage and also get the appropriate turn over and cleaning. I really don't care how many taps there are. But, I also do not really ever wish to be handed a menu which is akin to reading a minor Proustian effort.
    In the ideal, I don't need more than 16 taps, and I'd much rather prefer 8. Keep it simple for everyone involved.
     
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  20. emount91

    emount91 Initiate (0) Aug 28, 2015 Connecticut

    been to both Sedona Taphouse and World of Beer, both have over 80 taps, both have never made me worry about freshness. beers pumps in and out of there quick enough.

    BUT, if I walk into a 60+ tap bar and there's no customers there when there should be (appropriate bar hours), then i worry.
     
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