How often do you purchase packaged beer at retailers?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by JackHorzempa, Nov 8, 2019.

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How often do you purchase packaged beer at retailers?

  1. Never

    1.0%
  2. Not often

    12.6%
  3. About 50% of the time

    10.5%
  4. Mostly

    53.1%
  5. All of the time

    22.8%
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  1. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Jim, the beers at my small, local breweries are indeed packaged as 4/6-packs. I have never thought to ask if they would sell me a single can, have you? Maybe what is needed here is more customers asking for this? Are there any PA regulations that would not permit single can sales?

    Cheers!
     
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  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    That is a good question. Before I address it I should point out that the craft beer scene in my area seems to be different in that the small, local breweries offer their beers in cans for takeout - 4/6-packs of cans.

    For the purposes of this thread I would suggest that we view growler beers purchased at craft breweries as packaged beer since the intention is for at home consumption just like bottles or cans of beer.

    I rarely purchase growlers but sometime this weekend I will be visiting the Sly Fox brewpub (Phoenixville, PA) to fill up a growler with a Keller Pils that have available. I also like the fact that Sly Fox has a growler filling station that performs a double evacuation with CO2 prior to the fill and performs a counterpressure fill, basically just like a brewery's bottling line.

    “Sly Fox Bay 6 Pils

    Keller Pilsner

    11.8 OG45 IBUs5.1% ABV

    This unfiltered pilsner was brewed in collaboration with our friends at Philly’s Brü Craft & Wurst. German Saphir and Czech Saaz hops impart a floral aroma with hints of orange blossom on top of a biscuity malt backbone.”

    Cheers!
     
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  3. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    I have noticed several of the more reputable "boutique" style craft bottle shops have been greatly consolidating the variety of beers offered and noticing alot more vacant shelf space now vs. a year or so ago. Probably just over-estimated the true demand for high-end craft beer during the boom years, and now the inventory is becoming more based on sales/reality with trend data? Not sure. One thing is alot of the consolidation I'm seeing is in the reduction of imports on the shelves. Hopefully there will be a contraction of the plethora of high priced NEIPA 4 packs lined up in stores.
     
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  4. NeroFiddled

    NeroFiddled Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,276) Jul 8, 2002 Pennsylvania
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    I have asked, and no-go, but that's at least partially just because the computer/register system is not set up for it - a bartender can't by-pass the system.

    There are no PA regulations that I am aware of but you might be on to something... @jesskidden probably has an answer. Regardless, I'm pretty sure that a mixed 4 or 6-pack would meet the criteria but I can see how that could start to get a little bit messy as busy bartenders don't want to deal with that.
     
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  5. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    That is indeed a consideration but some of the small, local breweries near me (e.g., Workhorse) has a dedicated location for purchasing stuff (T-shirts, 4-packs, etc.) so they should be able to sell single cans from a human resource perspective. Maybe they just choose to not sell singles to maximize per unit revenue?

    Cheers!
     
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  6. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    There are a number of Wegmans supermarkets in SEPA that sell beer and over the past month+ there has been a lot of changes (e.g., relocating the area where the beers are located, etc.). I still have not figured out exactly what is happening here but this change has caused a bit of angst for BAs (e.g., @ESHBG).

    Cheers!
     
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  7. NeroFiddled

    NeroFiddled Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,276) Jul 8, 2002 Pennsylvania
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    Another note, that I should have included earlier. I used to buy growlers but I rarely do anymore. Originally there were problems with breweries being unwilling to fill someone else's glass (Iron Hill for example), and then there's just the hassle of it. I used to drive around with 16 growlers in my trunk - no more. If they don't have crowlers I'm not buying unless I've planned ahead and am sure they'll fill the glass I have.
     
  8. NeroFiddled

    NeroFiddled Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,276) Jul 8, 2002 Pennsylvania
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    So does Yards and Roy Pitz Barrel House. I wonder if those footprints will pay off though. Roy Pitz has always seemed slow, but when I've been at Yards there was a line to buy stuff. Of course Yards has more merchandise on offer, and they're much better known.
     
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  9. NeroFiddled

    NeroFiddled Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,276) Jul 8, 2002 Pennsylvania
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    As to the Wegmans/Giant/Weis/ShopRite and basically all of the other PA grocery stores - yes, there must be something going on that we don't know about because they're all toning down all at once. That just means more money for the other more expensive beer shops, and less money left in my pocket.
     
  10. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I asked one young fellow at my local Wegmans if they were decreasing the number of beer brands they will be carrying? He thought for a moment and replied: "We dropped some brands but we added others so the overall number of brands will be the same". Needless to say but there really is no way for me to accurately validate this claim.

    Cheers!
     
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  11. officerbill

    officerbill Pooh-Bah (2,228) Feb 9, 2019 New York
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    Our Wegman's has slightly expanded the beer area by moving seasonals to their own location and better utilizing the end caps. I don't believe they added more brands, but they do have more offerings from the better selling breweries.
    Of course it helps that grocery stores can't sell wine in NY, there have been times I've picked up a 6 pack just because I didn't feel like stopping at a liquor store.

    The Giant Eagle my son shops at started off with a lot of different beers, but has now reduced the number of beers in their “cafe” to just a few big sellers while increasing the number of wines. That where the money seems to be for grocery stores with limited space.
     
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  12. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    My debit card says too damn often.

    Otherwise, I drink a lot of draught beer at Old Chicago, Frontier Brewing and Taproom, Skull Tree Brewing, Wyoming Ale Works.
     
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  13. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Since it has now been at least 5 years since I home brewed (I keep telling myself that I'll start again someday), so most of my beer purchases are from stores. I frequently drink at breweries, restaurants or bars too, but most is bottles or cans at home.
     
  14. Zorro

    Zorro Grand Pooh-Bah (3,258) Dec 25, 2003 California
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    California makes it easy. They are trying to compete with the likes of BevMo. They don't get the rare stuff but stuff like Lagunitas they certainly do.
     
  15. RobH

    RobH Pundit (908) Sep 23, 2006 Maryland

    Hi Jack. numbers are up this year, although a big factor in that is hard seltzer sales, which are classified in the beer category for sales purposes at TWM.
     
  16. colby600

    colby600 Pooh-Bah (1,919) Mar 24, 2015 Connecticut
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    With Tree House only a 10 minute detour on my way home from work (hops), having a couple brewery memberships (wilds & stouts) and a bit of trading, I seldom visit a store. I voted not often but could almost be never.
     
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  17. tinoynk

    tinoynk Pundit (800) Sep 25, 2010 New York
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    The vast majority of my to-go beer purchases are done at a brewery. I'm still very much on that NEIPA kick, and here in NYC the markup for decent stuff in the style is ridiculous at retail. There are some solid deals to be had, but a lot of the rotational NEIPA from local/local-ish places comes out to $7-$8/can, sometimes even before tax, making the $18-$20 4 pack price at the breweries seem downright reasonable.
     
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  18. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    And a lot of Growlers, Howlers and Prowlers that I get from Liquor Shed.
     
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  19. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Rob, it will be interesting to see how long this fad lasts. Maybe longer than Zima?

    Cheers!
     
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  20. Beer_Stan

    Beer_Stan Initiate (0) Mar 15, 2014 California
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    As someone who works the job I have, as sales manager I travel to breweries often for business as well as personal and I never leave empty handed if it's good and do well to return. As Southern California is in the midst of a craft beer renaissance so to speak. But, I always shop from my own store and as well make sure to support the other independent stores in my area and support their success.
     
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