How price and availability would effect the top 250

yep. opinions are like assholes....

 

As long you don't actually think rarity makes something taste better then no I wasn't serious

 

There's a lot of beers in the top 250 that I can walk down the street and buy off the shelf. If the occasion should arise that I get to try KtG or King henry, great. But if not I'll just keep drinking those gems that I can get, or better yet, those gems you beer hoarding hype mongers don't know about.

 

Just look at the way Westy 12 dropped in the rankings when the bricks were released...

 

Never clicked on that link before, best part is the availability factor.

 

"I'd love to see a list where price and availabilty were factored in--would be very interesting. I'd have no idea how to do it, but I'm sure a statistician could easily figure out a way. And personally, I think Founder's Breakfast Stout (as well as Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout) would be quite high on the list. There may even be more than a few lagers on it as well.[/quote]"
Again, the "Beers of Fame" list does pretty much that. In order to get the required amount of reviews it is very unlikely that a beer would be difficult to obtain or extremely expensive. (It's also IMO the only legit list on the site) The regional lists have some value too for travelers

 

Honestly I think it's dumb how stouts are treated like the be-all-end all of beer (along with Belgian anything). How come strong ales and lagers don't get as much love?

 

A very interesting discussion, and certainly one that does not have a simple answer. Confirmation bias is a very, very real thing, but the hypotheses that Zombie Dust and KBS are delicious beers are also most certainly true, so where does the truth lie? Somewhere in between I guess, just as it does for most things.

You can be damn sure that no matter how objective you are trying to be, the excitement you feel before first sipping that rare beer you just managed to trade for has a significant influence on your eventual experience with the brew. Good beers become great, great beers become transcendent, and bad beers leave you questioning your judgment (if you were expecting them to be good). All of that said though, that's a big part of the fun and community of craft beer, and not something worth the effort to fight against in my opinion.

 

KBS is cave aged for a year. I imagine it would be somewhat difficult for Founders to bump it to year-round availability. As for CBS, it was a one-time bottle release. Founders could make it again, but they're not going to anytime soon. Might as well get over it.

 

I'm lucky I seem to prefer the easy to get beer as opposed to the whales.

 

Or price. Oude Tart rating? Shit is horrendous.

 

It was mentioned already... look at the Beers of Fame List.

 

Dragons Milk is aged in barrels for 6 months so Founders should be able to make at least half as much KBS as New Holland makes DM.

 

I feel you!... Many beers in the top 250 most of us will never drink. Between hype and homerism most of us have no chance of trying. What you are failing to grasp is the flavor of the rarity. Deep sarcasm is connected to rarity. Check beers of fame for beers that have stood the test of time.

 

Is there a cave shortage?

 

no its not really a cave its a old mine that some company I forget the name owns and Founders rents space in. Bottom line theres plenty more cave space

 

Definitely makes me feel a lot more accomplished to look at the Beers of Fame list as I've enjoyed quite a few of the more available, 'older' beers. Love it.

 

Actually it's aged for around 120 days. For being such a fanboy of this beer, you sure don't know much about it. Or how breweries operate for that matter (limited release/expensive beers don't pay the bills).

 

I wouldn't be quite so sure about that:

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/132/1339

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1199/79488

 

I think statistically the numbers would change when the beers hit a broader range of palates, not just the hardcore BAs that sought them out exclusively. Might go down...but then again they could go up.