How Should Breweries Price and Distribute Their Beer?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by beerguy2784, May 25, 2012.

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  1. beerguy2784

    beerguy2784 Initiate (0) Apr 4, 2012

    It doesn't take long to notice that there are many beers that are essentially unavailable to the average person who just walks into a shop and checks out the shelves or goes to the brewery and asks for their specialty. Many beers are sold out on the first day and then resold for more money or traded for different beers. Is that really the best way to be distributing beer? I believe it is not. So how do you think they should do it?

    I believe that if your beer is so in demand that people will be lining up only to resell it, then you should raise the damn price. This is particularly true with brewery releases, but I would imagine the same holds true when they're distributing. If people are willing to pay, then the brewery should benefit with increased income and people can benefit by being able to go to the brewery and get the beer.

    ...well duh, of course the breweries know this. So what's the deal? They like the exclusivity of selling out a beer and having it hot in demand, which raises people's opinion of the beer? I don't know, that seems so silly, I hope that's not the case.
     
  2. drperry11

    drperry11 Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2012 South Carolina

    If I had people lining up outside my brewery on release day I would feel like those customers are definitely more committed which it is true imo. Of course some or most of those people are going to be getting rid of a bottle or two of what they are buying, but they are going to trade it for another premium beer. I know the Hunaphu release was 20 for a bottle and there was a limit of 3 I believe. That's not exactly really cheap for a beer, but not crazy expensive.
    Having a release day adds hype and media excitement which in turn would lead to a higher opinion of the beer before even tasting it.
     
  3. loki993

    loki993 Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2009 Michigan

    I guess I never understood raising the price of something to reduce demand, maybe Im misunderstanding though. Seems like taking advantage. If its to stop people from trading I dont think that would help either. those one will still get the beer and just make even more money on ebay or wherever every they end up selling it.

    The only thing raising the price of the beer would do is put it out of the hands of the average craft beer drinker. I mean I guess more power to you if you have the extra disposable income to buy really expensive beer, but I sure don't. I mean I got a 4 pack of KBS for example, 20 dollars if A LOT for a 4 pack of beer. Any more and Im not sure I could justify it.
     
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  4. Agold

    Agold Maven (1,287) Mar 13, 2010 Pennsylvania

    You seem to understand it just fine.

    The rest of your post is kind of confusing to me. You think if you raise the price that people on ebay will make more on sales? How does this work?

    Also, if the average craft drinker can afford a $15 4 pack I highly doubt that they couldn't afford a $20 4 pack. People have priorities and preferences and that is how they choose what to buy. An econ 101 class will explain a lot of this for you. Try the book naked economics. Good read.
     
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  5. loki993

    loki993 Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2009 Michigan

    No Im not saying that, what Im saying is that raising the prices would affect the ebay people. There are people out there that are willingly paying big money for some of these beers. I would be willing to bet that to stop the profiteering you would have to raise the price to a point that would put it out of reach to most people

    The more money part came from the hype it may generate. Before its just a rare beer...now it would be a rare and expensive beer. Maybe not make more money, but they will still get their margins. That could be totally off though.
     
  6. EgadBananas

    EgadBananas Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2009 Louisiana

    You act as if 90% of a special release beer ends up on secondary markets and that's just absurd. Sure, a few dozen people may sell their alottments of Dark Lord, but that would only equate to such a small percentage of the bottles produced. Why punish those that won't sell theirs by jacking up the price? As if that would stifle secondary markets any way. Its not like people are reselling for $5 more than what they paid for it. You'd have to jack the price up to the point where not only the resellers won't buy it, but legitimate consumers won't either.

    Sure, we all may shake our head at a special bottle being sold for 5 times what it really cost, but there are much bigger fish to fry
     
  7. joeebbs

    joeebbs Initiate (0) Apr 29, 2009 Pennsylvania

    Having a high price doesn't mean it won't discourage people from re-selling it. Just look at prices of Utopias online.
     
  8. GWTW

    GWTW Zealot (589) May 19, 2011 Florida
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    Anyone want to play "condos"? Or "dot-com stocks"? This all shall pass.
     
  9. tjensen3618

    tjensen3618 Maven (1,391) Mar 23, 2008 California

    I am in favor of DONGs in the cases where bottles counts would be way short of meeting demand.
     
  10. rlcoffey

    rlcoffey Savant (1,207) Apr 20, 2004 Kentucky

    How should breweries price their beer?

    They should plot the supply/demand curves and price at the intersection point. They will clear the market with neither a surplus nor a shortage.

    Of course, the supply "curve" is actually a step function, but that doesnt change anything other than making the graph look weird.
     
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  11. nrs207

    nrs207 Initiate (0) Sep 8, 2011 Pennsylvania

    This. Raising the price might lower demand and make it more available, but only to people willing to drop a ton of cash. I'm not sure that really fits the bill for beer. I'd lose respect for Founders if they jacked up the price of KBS to $40 a 4 pack, even though it would probably still sell out. I'd hate to see the day good beer becomes exclusively an rich man's product. If you want to sell on eBay to people with deep pockets, ok cool. That's not me. If I can't get something, I'll trade for it or drink one of a bunch of other possibilities.
     
  12. rlcoffey

    rlcoffey Savant (1,207) Apr 20, 2004 Kentucky

    I dont see the problem with them charging $40. But then again, I dont pay $20 for a 4-pack either, so Im not the target consumer.

    But, Im assuming they value the marketing they get from the hype over the extra $20, hence the price stays low and there are shortages.
     
  13. mychalg9

    mychalg9 Pooh-Bah (2,123) Apr 8, 2010 Illinois
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    Its pretty simple really, any beer that is still on the shelf is priced too high
     
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  14. chcfan

    chcfan Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2008 California

    The way I hope it is for most craft brewers is that they think of their special releases as sort of a gift for their loyal customers/fanboys and most brewers don't want to create ill will by pricing them extremely high. After receiving hundreds of butthurt emails from people who got shut out of BT online 2 years ago, Bruery responded saying that they know they could charge $100 for BT, but wouldn't feel right making their fans pay so much for it. "Market" price on limited stuff may also lead to confused and annoyed shoppers if a brewer were to have $50 bombers sitting on the shelf next to $5 bombers.
     
  15. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    I lot of people (myself included) do not have the time to line up and wait for a release. There is no "fair" way for a brewery to sell a beer that they can't meet the demand. If KBS was sold for $40.00 a 4 pack in Nj i might have a shot at buying some.At $20.00 only the truck chasers have a shot.
     
  16. Mavajo

    Mavajo Initiate (0) Feb 10, 2007 Georgia

    They should all be distributed to the store closest to me, and sold at cost.
     
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  17. chcfan

    chcfan Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2008 California

    This is 100% true. High pricing may lead to less beer geeks getting in line and bringing mules to releases, but there will always be resellers who will just start the bidding/pricing higher. Look no further than concert or sporting tickets.
     
  18. slangtruth

    slangtruth Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2012 Kentucky

    Kinda what I was thinking, but I want to give the guys a wholesale and retail profit so they can continue. So, cost +20% for the brewer, and another 10% for the retailer :grinning: .
     
  19. americajesus

    americajesus Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2011 New Jersey

    how about let them distribute, price, and sell how ever they want
    if you want it bad enough youll find it
     
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  20. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey

    And
    And any beer that is sold out but still in demand is priced too low.
     
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