How to fix things that ain't broken but don't quite work

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by AlCaponeJunior, Oct 21, 2014.

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  1. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,428) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    I made about 1.5 gallons of a stout using extra dark extract and a partial mash with specialty grains (ABV about 8.0) That was probably six months ago. I didn't like it that much, it reminded me of really heavily special-B/C120-ish stouts that are really dark-fruity, raisiny, and thicker than motor oil. And yes, it had special-B (not much but apparently way more than enough!). What the heck tho, it only made like four bombers and a few singles by the time it was bottled, and I don't sweat one-off small batches that ain't that good.

    Fast forward to yesterday, when I found three of these bombers hiding in a closet. Put one in the fridge. It had mellowed a little, and a small increase in carbonation had helped a touch, but it was still a touch overbearing.

    However, the day before I had a BBQ and jam with my METAL band, and there was a variety of beer left in the fridge.

    Then it fucking hit me. The urge for a black and tan. The Beer Gods must have been looking down from their lofty bar-stools in the microbrewery in the sky, because I reached for a light lager (whatever the brand), and poured in about a quarter of a bomber of the "special-B stout," and WHAM! That's fucking tasty!

    BUT - The Beer Gods were in fact not just making my light lager leftovers tastier, they were setting the stage...

    For Deliciousness.

    Because my homebrew lager (1st attempt, came out great) is probably about at the point of perfect carbonation. Test bottle #3 was a few days ago, and this one was smooth as nitro-champagne*.

    Tomorrow test bottle #4 gets popped. Black and tan time! There's no way this will be anything less than friggin' tasty! And it's still kinda lagery time here in Tx, still getting pretty friggin' warm in the afternoons, certainly not time for heavy stouts. But a little black in your tan may be in order.

    So please do tell how you figured out how to make lemonade out of lemons.

    [this rambling pile of inane homebrew lore brought to you by al)

    *may not exist in the real world :rolling_eyes:
     
  2. machalel

    machalel Initiate (0) Jan 19, 2012 Australia

    You know what? I've got a few bottles of a coffee/chocolate/milk porter that I made earlier this year that is just a bit too sweet, and I've got my first attempt at a Lager in the fridge conditioning at the moment... Thanks for the idea :slight_smile:

    (p.s. Oh man, nitro Champagne? Why is that not a thing?)
     
  3. scurvy311

    scurvy311 Savant (1,123) Dec 3, 2005 Louisiana

    I would suggest making a small batch of icecream with overly flavored lightly hopped beer. I made a schwarzbier ice cream that was amazing. Or an icecream float with your stout.

    Early on I had a really thick dunkel that used wheat dme and honey malt among other things. It was really thick and the color was off, almost purple. I decided just to dilute it with store bought wheat beer, don't remember what. When poured like a Black and Tan it shown purple and gold...LSU. Brought the last few to a tailgate, and to the 3-4 people that saw that, they thought it was done purposefully. I still want to try to recreate that but so much beer in the pipeline. I have a pic somewhere.
     
  4. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,238) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Glad you said this, because technically what you described is a sparkling wine, not a Champagne, which can only be made in a specific region in France using certain prescribed techniques. I would have needed to correct you to clarify for the world that nitro Champagne is not real Champagne, because I'm sure lots of people were confused about what you meant. :wink:

    As for black and tans, I've been known to blend, especially off of my kegging setup. If I have a pale ale and a dark ale in the house, black and tan is part of the lineup.

    This summer, living in WI really paid off, with lots of sour offerings from New Glarus coming my way. I actually had so many sours that I thought it was time to mix things up. I blended one of them with a homebrewed stout. I realized that while sometimes I like breathtakingly sour beers, back-sweetening with something like a dark beer can bring about a different kind of joy.
     
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  5. premierpro

    premierpro Savant (1,060) Mar 21, 2009 Michigan

    If you write music as entertaining as your posts here we will be seeing you on TV soon!
     
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  6. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,428) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    I know, after I thought of it I'm like "man, that sounds good!"
     
  7. DrMindbender

    DrMindbender Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 South Carolina

    I have an 11% Chocolate Coffee Oatmeal Imperial Milk Stout that has aged into a very "figgy" flavor...I had almost given up on drinking all of it, but I started to mix it with a 10% Pumpkin Ale I brewed and BAM, one of the best beer combos I've had in a while!
     
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  8. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,363) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I do not know if you have any pumpkin beers in your inventory but you might want to try that blended with your stout.

    My wife loves a beer she calls a Chocolate Pumpkin which is typically a blend of Young's Double Chocolate Stout with a Pumpkin Ale. I once made a blend of my homebrewed Oatmeal Stout (which has a bit a chocolate flavor) with a Pumpkin Ale and that was tasty too.

    Cheers!
     
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  9. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    When I first brewed after upgrading/adding equipment I brewed one of my ESB recipes designed for 70% efficiency. Unfortunately, I got 87% and decided I would just roll with it...instead of diluting or adding more hops (which I didn't have anyway). Well, I under-pitched quite a bit since the starter was also designed for 70%, and 002 isn't known for it's high attenuation. However, it boldly ate through those sugars as much as it could...and delivered about 73%...which still wasn't enough to bring the FG below the high 20's. It was cloyingly sweet and the alcohol was not hidden at all.

    Anyway, my wife hated it, and I wasn't particularly enamored either. My solution was to drink the entire 5 gallons in under 2 weeks, while sobbing, and try to forget it ever happened. Luckily, the alcohol helped with that a bit. :wink:

    Maybe next time I'll go the mixology route, instead of the Dumbledore route.
     
  10. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    I always just keg it, put it in the fridge or corner of garage and hop it turns out better.. Usually not the case.

    Now I experiment with beers, and leave the door open enough I can just sour it and call it done if I don't care for it. Can always welcome some sours to use to blend around and make something special.
     
  11. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,238) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I knew I had one last bottle of New Glarus Pumpkin Pie Lust in my fridge, so after reading this, I was prompted to go home and try it. Alas, it was not quite meant to be. To my surprise, my keg of stout was down to the last couple teaspoons of foam. And so was my brown ale. 10 days to Halloween, no more beer in the fridge, and empty kegs. Talk about scary.

    (OK, maybe not so bad - still have some saison).
     
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  12. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    Break it harder.
     
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  13. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,428) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    I've still got two bombers of the thick and mixy special B stout, so I'm not too scared yet, tho halloween IS coming up quick.

    Each bomber of special B stout is about right for four 12-oz lagers. I also have a nice can of ten-fidy. That's going to be drank half straight up and half black-and-tanned. I've done a 2:1 ratio with lager:ten-fidy before, and it comes out real nice. I think two homebrew lagers plus 1/4 can each for ten-fidy will be really tasty.

    But it's ten-fidy. So I need to have at least part of it straight up. :sunglasses:

    However, I have so much friggin' homework and two tests coming up thurs, I can't justify slacking off that much* with so little time left.

    *well, given how much I've already slacked off today. :rolling_eyes:
     
  14. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,428) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    Oh shit man, Young's plus Pumpking sounds friggin' Fantabulis ginormicus !**

    and actually, I haven't made an oatmeal stout in a while, I think that's goin' on the simplicity thread in a call for action, men!

    **it's my new genetically modified yeast that makes super-tasty GM-Beer!
     
  15. KeeganRohovich

    KeeganRohovich Initiate (0) Nov 11, 2013 Canada (SK)

    My very first homebrew attempt was less than prosperous. My coffee stout just didn't come out as planned. I started mixing it with a few ounces of homebrew wine and what do you know.... Tasty tasty
     
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  16. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,238) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Coffee stout and wine? I cannot fathom.
     
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  17. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,428) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    Oh yeah the homebrew lager plus the ten-fidy is awesome! I'm drinking half the ten-fidy straight up too.

    Tomorrow I'm doing the homebrew lager with the special b stout
     
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