How to ID "gritty" beer?

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  1. deleted_user_1111368

    deleted_user_1111368 Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2016 Delaware

    How can I figure out if a NEIPA, IPA or PA would be 'gritty'? With all the descriptors out there (unfiltered, turbid, hazy etc etc), I find myself buying beers that have a gritty mouthfeel. While I like them, my stomach doesn't, and I wind up giving them away.

    Are there specific hops, malts, adjuncts or anything else that I could research at the brewers website, and know ahead of time? I can't seem to figure out which ones will be like that, and which won't. I originally thought it was lupulin powder, but have come to find out that it's not always the case.

    Thanks!
     
  2. TheGent

    TheGent Grand Pooh-Bah (4,235) Jun 29, 2010 New Jersey
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    I’m not sure I’ve ever experienced a “gritty” mouthfeel.

    Can you give some examples?
     
  3. deleted_user_1111368

    deleted_user_1111368 Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2016 Delaware

    When I say 'gritty', I'm comparing it to creamy, smooth beers. It could be 'grainy' compared to them, but I've had some grainy beers.
    Trinity - Hype Forager
    Cypress & Icarus (collab) - Necessity & Invention

    I've had others, with varying degrees of texture, but the 2 above were easily remembered.
     
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  4. superspak

    superspak Grand High Pooh-Bah (10,927) May 5, 2010 North Carolina
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    I know exactly what you are talking about, but there is no real clear answer at all. I have had plenty of NEIPAs with the same hops; but both sides of the mouthfeel spectrum. Some are super soft, and some have the gritty rough finish. It all comes down to their brew process mostly. Some of the juiciest/softest NEIPAs I've had are made with very resinous hops, that would be very aggressive in most other IPA situations.
     
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  5. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    Are you speaking of a soda/seltzer dry minerality that may be a touch salty, puckering and acidic? I've had some that did not contain the fruitiness that is required to leaven this component. This really is like wine, no?
     
  6. TheGent

    TheGent Grand Pooh-Bah (4,235) Jun 29, 2010 New Jersey
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    Ok. I’ve had Hype Forager and I know exactly what you are talking about. Since you’ve listed out specific examples in your post I’ll go ahead and point out that Hype Forager is brewed with flour. I don’t know how much or if it has anything to do with the mouthfeel, but at least I now know what you’re describing.
     
  7. TheGent

    TheGent Grand Pooh-Bah (4,235) Jun 29, 2010 New Jersey
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    I meant to say specific ingredients, not examples. Unable to edit my post.
     
  8. Jacobier10

    Jacobier10 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,102) Feb 23, 2004 New Jersey
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    Drink a lager. Problem solved! :stuck_out_tongue:
     
  9. LarryV

    LarryV Grand Pooh-Bah (5,408) Jun 13, 2001 Massachusetts
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    Beers with a lot of suspended particulates can have a gritty mouthfeel. I don't think there's any way you'd know in advance other than tasting it unless someone mentions it in a review.
     
  10. deleted_user_1111368

    deleted_user_1111368 Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2016 Delaware

    No, these have mostly been base IPA brews, all going for the NE style creaminess.

    Thanks! I've had others (their names escape me at this point), and I originally thought it was the oats.. so there are multiple instances with varying results.

    I've seen unfiltered particulates in many beers as well, however.. they didn't result in the grit I'm referring to in the beers above.
     
  11. TrojanRB

    TrojanRB Grand Pooh-Bah (3,779) Jul 27, 2013 Texas
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    I’m having a hard time picturing a “gritty” mouthfeel, especially in the context of NEIPA.....I’ve had chewy and muddy....but gritty sounds so unappealing....
     
  12. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    How about 'chalky'?
     
  13. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    I get chalky a lot from NEIPAs.
     
  14. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Me too , plus that seems to be the descriptor I've seen others use.
     
  15. deleted_user_1111368

    deleted_user_1111368 Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2016 Delaware

    Can't say chalky is what I'm getting.

    Not wanting to make things more confusing.. can you give me a popular national beer that would fit the chalky criteria. I could grab 1 of them and get back to you (always looking for a reason drink a beer here).
     
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  16. threeviews

    threeviews Initiate (0) Apr 18, 2011 Florida

    @TongoRad & @GetMeAnIPA

    "Chalky" is a descriptor that I use as well along with "Yeast Bite" or "Hop Bite"

    "Yeast Bite" and "Chalky" seem to reference similar palate senses, "Hop Bite" is quite more intense. The latter leaves a residual burning in the back of the throat that is wholly unpleasant.

    With all of the particulate left in the beer after packaging, a majority of NEIPA's seem to have some level of "Yeast or Hop Bite".

    The more hazy the beer, the more likely you will run into this issue (but not exclusively). I do find NEIPA's with a slight haze (Heady Topper, Sip Of Sunshine) do not suffer these (IMO) flaws.
     
  17. TrojanRB

    TrojanRB Grand Pooh-Bah (3,779) Jul 27, 2013 Texas
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    I'm having trouble identifying a national beer that is chalky...I guess because I usually associate it with NEIPA's, which are rarely nationally distributed.

    For those on the west coast, the best examples I can think of are everything by Offshoot, and maybe Mikkeller's Windy Hill
     
  18. deleted_user_1111368

    deleted_user_1111368 Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2016 Delaware

    They would not be the same thing IMO. When I first started getting into IPA's, Hop Bite was that tingle in the back of the throat that took me a few weeks to get used to. I likened higher level Hop Bite to taste bud sensory overload. Those days are gone now.. it's all good these days.
     
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  19. deleted_user_1111368

    deleted_user_1111368 Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2016 Delaware

    I'v had about a dozen Offshoot - Relax beers in the last 3 months.. and 4 more in my fridge. The thought of chalky never came to mind, and definitely not gritty.
     
  20. ilikebeer03

    ilikebeer03 Pooh-Bah (2,616) Oct 17, 2012 Texas
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    Where it kind of feels like your tongue is dried out? coated with something? tongue feels like a rug?
    Probably astringency from the amount of hops.
     
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