How to REVIVE craft beer?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by DaverCS, Mar 22, 2015.

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  1. DaverCS

    DaverCS Savant (1,212) Dec 9, 2014 Arizona

    I have read recently in other posts that original craft breweries like Sam Adams are falling down from glory while the craft beer movement grows in popularity. While I understand why, what does a brewery like Sam Adams (or any failing brewery) have to do to reclaim some glory and popularity?

    Does it need to move to creating the ever-increasingly popular barrel-aged beers, more niche beers (utopias), Hoppier beers, etc.. etc.. etc… What do you want to see?
     
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  2. Preluderl

    Preluderl Pooh-Bah (1,796) Sep 27, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    They make too many bad beers. While I think a handful of their beers are good, I believe they could do better if they narrowed their focus a little bit.
     
  3. Jirin

    Jirin Initiate (0) Apr 28, 2013 Massachusetts

    Sam Adams' sales are high as ever, are they not?

    What would bring back their reputation among craft beer drinkers? Focus more on their stronger brews and make them more available instead of their current focus on more centrist 5% ABV beers.
     
  4. spacecake9

    spacecake9 Pooh-Bah (2,202) Apr 26, 2014 Illinois
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    Why would we care? There are so many great beers out there. Try the new stuff, buy the good stuff.
     
  5. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
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    Make better beer, I don't know a lot about Sam Adams, but their Boston Lager is terrible.
     
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  6. Torch_Lake

    Torch_Lake Initiate (0) Aug 4, 2013 Ohio

    The fact that BBC has lost reputation and/or market share hardly means craft beer as a whole needs to be revived.
     
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  7. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    I think you mean reviving a stale brewery that isn't putting out anything new or world class. Simple, put out something new that is world class. When Sam Adams was hip US craft beer, there was hardly any competition. They were a big fish in a small pond. Now there are 1000's of craft brewers making better product. If they put out world class stuff, the beer nerds will come back around.
     
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  8. offthelevel_bytheplumb

    offthelevel_bytheplumb Maven (1,277) Aug 19, 2013 Illinois

    Maybe it's just you...

    There's plenty of people that like Boston Lager.
     
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  9. 1eyed_jack

    1eyed_jack Initiate (0) Dec 19, 2012 Illinois

    Unfortunately a lot of the Craft Beer scene is about what's new, what's coming out in the future and how rare stuff is and such.

    I've seen breweries like Dogfish Head, Sam Adams, Deschutes, Lagunitas and Sierra Nevada treated almost like BMC beers on here and I think it's pretty much only because they are all pretty easy to find with wide distribution.

    A lot of people are only about the next beer they are drinking. They want something new, not something they've had before and can get whenever they want.

    It's sad, but true.
     
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  10. PA-Michigander

    PA-Michigander Grand Pooh-Bah (3,372) Nov 10, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    You admit craft beer is doing fine so are you asking how to revive BBC? Are you sure they need revival?
     
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  11. RBassSFHOPit2ME

    RBassSFHOPit2ME Initiate (0) Mar 1, 2009 California

    They have tons of money. I'm sure they could entice some new, highly respected up and comers with a well above average salary and repackage a new "line" of beers. Similar to what Stone is doing with their Pale Ale & Ruination and or similar to what Port Brewing is doing with their Hop Freshener Series.

    They could also repackage some old staples as well. Part of the problem with Sam and others alike is their house profile yeast or malt etc.... where all their beers typically taste the same, just twisted to meet different styles.

    Just a thought. Feel free to piss on it if you like. :-)

    You have to change with the times if you want to keep up.
     
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  12. Brad007

    Brad007 Pooh-Bah (2,821) Mar 28, 2007 Vermont
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    Boston Beer Company is far from a "failing brewery". In fact, how would you define a failing brewery in the first place?
     
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  13. PorterPro125

    PorterPro125 Pooh-Bah (1,700) Jan 19, 2013 Canada (NB)

    While it's not my favourite and I don't often buy it, I definitely like Boston Lager. There's a great steakhouse in town that always has Boston Lager on tap and would I rather a Boston Lager than a BMC beer?

    Hell yeah.
     
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  14. Greywulfken

    Greywulfken Grand Pooh-Bah (5,815) Aug 25, 2010 New York
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    I'm in agreement with much of what's been said here...

    I'd say Sam Adams is a great gateway brewer - approachable, it can get you from BMC to craft - but once you're into the craft world, you realize that their products aren't often as good as other craft brewers.

    Most craft breweries either have a specialty/niche (sours, barrel aging, high gravity, whatever) or they produce a couple of renowned top-tier products in one or more of the more popular styles. Sam Adams fits neither criteria. They pump out tons of beer across the boards, yes, but without distinction (unless mediocrity counts). And they do not have a major IPA, stout, or specialty beer that gets much attention (other than Utopias, which is not very beer-like, and prohibitively expensive).
     
  15. PorterPro125

    PorterPro125 Pooh-Bah (1,700) Jan 19, 2013 Canada (NB)

    I know everyone has different tastes but really? You think Boston Lager is terrible? How so?
     
  16. Brad007

    Brad007 Pooh-Bah (2,821) Mar 28, 2007 Vermont
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    I counter this with the following slogan:

    "Drink what you like."

    I have yet to see any of that derision towards the breweries that you listed on here.
     
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  17. 1eyed_jack

    1eyed_jack Initiate (0) Dec 19, 2012 Illinois

    Well drink what you like is obvious. But to a lot of people they drink what they haven't had over what they like.

    I'm glad you haven't seen any of that! Cause I have.
     
  18. 19etz55

    19etz55 Savant (1,236) Aug 12, 2007 New Jersey
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    I noticed that SA has produced MANY new beers
    over the past so many years. I've tried many of
    them which were good. I just can't remember one
    that I can say wowed me. I think maybe that
    people are looking for the ones ( Pliny, Heady,
    KBS, BCBCS, etc.) that knock your socks off.
    So as Sammy will make good to very good brews,
    you might be pressed to find one that wows you.
    Having said that you have a lot of variety with
    SA and most times will not be dissapointed. They
    are good and I will continue to buy their brews
    every now and then. Especially something new
    from them.
     
  19. offthelevel_bytheplumb

    offthelevel_bytheplumb Maven (1,277) Aug 19, 2013 Illinois

    My thoughts exactly.
     
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  20. Sweatshirt

    Sweatshirt Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2014 New Hampshire

    They are doing just fine. Not appealing to small subset of a small subset isn't a problem.
     
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