How would you extract from fresh apples?

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  1. BigJoeC

    BigJoeC Zealot (563) Jan 22, 2011 New Jersey

    I'm looking to add fresh apple to a pale or amber ale for end of October. Was thinking about adding puréed Apple my family will pick. I figured I'd add it at the end of the boil in my hop spider. I am considering about 12 apples for a 5 gal batch. Also, may add some cinnamon and nutmeg.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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  3. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    You won't get much flavor out of 12 apples. Apple cider has an OG of roughly 1.050 and usually zeros out on the FG. The hardest thing I think I've found in making cider is to keep the apple flavor. It usually just kind of tastes like feet to me. Just funky in the wrong ways. Others can weigh in on getting this to shape up quickly in a beer that you'd want to drink in the next months, but ciders also seem to get much more drinkable after a year.

    How many pies does 12 apples make? :slight_smile:
     
  4. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    I think most people would suggest you NOT heat the apples. You would boil off a lot of the flavor and you would end up with a lot of pectins (think haze). I think you would need a lot more than 12 apples to even notice a slight apple flavor.
     
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  5. BigJoeC

    BigJoeC Zealot (563) Jan 22, 2011 New Jersey

    I have a nice Amber I brewed Thursday. What if added Apple purée or even diced apples to it after about a week? Then I could let it sit for 2 weeks.
     
  6. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    one trick is to use FCAJ. just that it and add to the primary.
    boiling apple is a bad idea. there is not too much flavor, the "appleness" is from aroma. boiling will just leave you with a lot of ferment-able sugar. that is not always a bad thing, but you don't need apples for that. you can get a secondary fermentation going if you add it to your finished brew and you don't have to worry about pulp or haze. CO2 will blow off aroma as well, so a gentle relatively cool fermentation helps keep it in check.

    as for adding spice, it seems many people that want to get an apple profile want to add cinnamon or something. that too is not a good idea imo. traditional apple spice is much too strong for the apple flavor. you may as well skip the apple all together.

    fermented apple is very delicate. everything you do should be to preserve aroma. if you should decide to use real apples, do the research. find a good aroma variety. those are typically apples with low sugar content and not what most Americans are asking for. the varieties at the A+P are going to be very good for farmers and 3rd grade students. stop by the farm stand and ask for the variety that they can't sell. that's the one you want. crab apples even. no kidding.

    Cheers.
     
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  7. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Flavor tip two:
    ... adding some nice apple-pie spices for a note of nutmeg or cinnamon at this point in the (primary) fermentation process is a BAD idea. Any time I try to sneak any flavor in at this stage of fermentation, I end up with cider that tastes distinctly of gym socks."
     
  9. BigJoeC

    BigJoeC Zealot (563) Jan 22, 2011 New Jersey

    You've tasted gym socks? Just kidding.

    Thanks for the input. I was also considering a secondary with maybe 10lbs of Apple and some spices.
     
  10. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

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