Huffington Post Teaching You About Beer Styles

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by ant880, Apr 26, 2012.

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  1. LiquidTable

    LiquidTable Initiate (0) May 3, 2011 Michigan

    No, they are correct. Pilsner was first brewed in 1842. While many lagers predate it, the pilsner appelation was a result of the "discovery" of a lighter malt (pilsner malt) and the perfect combination of bright Saaz hops and hard water, intentionally bottom fermented on a revolutionary brewing system.
    Few classic styles are younger.
     
  2. commis

    commis Initiate (0) Jul 21, 2009 Massachusetts

    but...CAN'T THEY FIND SOMEONE WHO KNOWS SOMETHING ABOUT CRAFT BEER TO DO THE ARTICLE !?

    It's the Huffington Post, man. That wiuld be waaay out of character for them.
     
  3. jbertsch

    jbertsch Pooh-Bah (2,874) Dec 14, 2008 Massachusetts
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    I'm sorry you think I'm insane. I see it as a "strong pale ale" as noted here on BA. And I simply mean that, to the craft newbie, seeing how 2 beers that are both pale in appearance can and taste vastly different might be interesting to them. That's all.
     
  4. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    This is all correct, except that the water from the wells is very soft and very low in alkalinity.
     
  5. 5thOhio

    5thOhio Pooh-Bah (1,571) May 13, 2007 South Carolina
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    "Just because a beer is labeled an IPA doesn't mean it is the modern interpretation of hop-forward, higher ABV, assertive beer."

    Well, since we can't taste or analyze any of the now-defunct IPAs brewed since the 1800s, we have to assume they fit the definition since the breweries labeled them as such. And, as Jesskiddin points out, one of them certainly was the basis for the new era of IPAs.

    Also some might suggest that the hop-forward assertive IPAs being brewed today don't fit the true description of an IPA either, but are an extreme variant. And even by today's definition, there is a wide variety of the style from palate-trashing, mouth-puckering IPAs to subtle and mild. So which are the correct IPAs?
     
  6. LiquidTable

    LiquidTable Initiate (0) May 3, 2011 Michigan

    Correct. Misspoken on my part.
     
  7. LiquidTable

    LiquidTable Initiate (0) May 3, 2011 Michigan

    No, you're probably not insane, but this site is wrong. Reference bjcp.org - category 18d: Belgian Golden Strong Ale.
    By "pale in color," I can see your point though.
    I often like to dismiss the Lager Myth (all lagers are yellow, fizzy and light) by pouring a Doppelbock.
     
  8. TheJollyHop

    TheJollyHop Initiate (0) Sep 2, 2009 California

    In my opinion, these so called "lists" have only one purpose; give BA members a topic of conversation. Unless a respected BA actually complies one of these lists, the majority will never be approving. So cheers to another debate of a beer list's merits!
     
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  9. FatSalad

    FatSalad Initiate (0) Apr 19, 2012

    I can't see how that would entice anyone. What a boring piece.
     
  10. Mebuzzard

    Mebuzzard Grand Pooh-Bah (4,290) May 19, 2005 Colorado
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    True. But Czechoslovakia... in 1842?? :confused:
     
  11. midworken

    midworken Initiate (0) Sep 20, 2009 Nebraska

    This was a pretty good comment:
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    Most places Bud ain't cheap. They have to pay for the advertising somehow. I can't drink it (even on a bet...get a splitting headache). I think it has something with the way they process the rice through the Clydsdales...."

     
  12. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    It was 1842 when the first Pilsener was made. Current Czech Republic, then it was probably Austro-Hungarian Empire - no?
     
  13. Mebuzzard

    Mebuzzard Grand Pooh-Bah (4,290) May 19, 2005 Colorado
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    Oh yeah, I know where it is. Just questioning the integrity of an article that lists a country that didn't exist during the time period mentioned, and doesn't exist now :slight_smile: . But I think it was just the Austrian Empire then.
     
  14. djsmith1174

    djsmith1174 Savant (1,015) Aug 21, 2005 Minnesota

    Why the hell does everyone need to be prodded to drink better beer? Aren't you supposed to explore new things because you're intrigued and want to broaden your experience of the world. No one ever told me to seek out craft beer, I just knew that I liked the qualities found in beer and the typical macro wasn't going provide them to me. I've never been a beer guzzler, so the variety in beer styles started to influence me and make the experience of beer drinking more rewarding. That began nearly 20 years ago and continues to do so to this day. I'm the driving force behind me becoming a BA, I assume it's the same for the rest of you as well. We don't want BAs to be converted by the media as many of the converts to other interests are in our society today.
     
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  15. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    Usual claptrap of regurgitated hearsay and assumptions together with a few misunderstandings and misapprehensions.This at a time when there's a mass of properly researched work available.Trouble is that people will read it and think it's authoritative.
    BTW "pale ale" simply refers to beer of the ale family which is brewed from pale malt.So Duvel is a pale ale however else you might describe it.So is IPA (the clue comes from the second two letters) and there have been masses of session strength low hopped IPAs over the last century.It's called evolution.
     
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  16. Zimbo

    Zimbo Pooh-Bah (2,305) Aug 7, 2010 Scotland
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    Totally.
    Sadly, the combination of enjoyment, free will and curiosity is perceived to be a real threat in our modern world.
    And the old metaphor 'You can take as horse to water but you can't make it drink it' is beyond the reach of too many.
     
  17. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    No, Duvel is the benchmark for Belgian Strong Pale, an artificial division of their Pales into strong and reg. Either way, it certainly is the benchmark example for that end of the pale spectrum. If I'm not mistaken, and I'm sure I'll be corrected if I am, there is no style "Belgian Golden Strong Ale", that is Moortgart's marketing hook. I actually had this discussion with a brewery rep at a Duvel tasting. Guess this makes me insane?
     
  18. DerekP

    DerekP Pundit (982) Dec 4, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I think Anchor's Bock is a bad pick by the Huffington Post. Reason being: most available bocks don't look that dark, and if the HPost is trying to educate consumers who wouldn't look into beer styles otherwise, they're throwing folks off.
     
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