Hydrometer in fermentor

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  1. drinkybanjo

    drinkybanjo Crusader (457) Sep 4, 2008 New Jersey

    Hello

    Someone gave me a really good tip and I was wondering if others do it too. He told me instead of taking samples of the beer to measure gravity to simply put the Hydrometer in the fermentor. Seems very logical to me, anyone else do this? If not any reason why?

    Thanks,
    Tim
     
  2. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    How are you going to accurately read a small line on a hydrometer floating in the middle of a carboy through all the krausen (whether active or dried and crusted)? If in a bucket, why not just put in and take out? Also, dried krausen krust will change the measurement as it adds weight to the instrument beyond the standard weight to balance it.
     
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  3. ShanePB

    ShanePB Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2010 Pennsylvania

    Also, god forbid something would happen to the hydrometer and it cracked/broke, I can guarantee you would not want shards of glass and lead floating around in your fermenting beer.
     
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  4. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    That's how I do it. Open lid, insert hydrometer. I've never had an infection from doing this.
     
  5. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    I don't think your friend has much practical brewing experience.

    you can put it in there to make a measurement but you can't leave it in there. like @jbakajust1 mentions it will become covered in hops and yeast. you can't read it. and it is generally not a good idea to be put anything in unfermented beer long term.

    get a refractometer if you don't like to waste any beer.
    Cheers.
     
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  6. ssam

    ssam Pundit (997) Dec 2, 2008 California

    Yea I have thought about this idea, but ^ refractometer is the better option.
     
  7. Wanda

    Wanda Zealot (518) Nov 23, 2006 Tennessee

    The CO2 present in the beer can also cause off readings. You need to de-gas it.
     
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  8. Wanda

    Wanda Zealot (518) Nov 23, 2006 Tennessee

    How accurate are refractometers for post fermentation? I thought I read the measurment can be way off in the presence of the alcohol.
     
  9. ssam

    ssam Pundit (997) Dec 2, 2008 California

    Correct it with http://seanterrill.com/2012/01/06/refractometer-calculator/.
    I've checked it against hydrometers and vibrating u densitometers and its perfectly accurate even with alc present.
     
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  10. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    The actual measurement is very off, but there are calculators to get you fairly close when this reading is combined with the original refractometer reading pre fermentation. There is one built into the BrewCipher program.

    EDIT: @ssam posted the same.
     
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  11. drinkybanjo

    drinkybanjo Crusader (457) Sep 4, 2008 New Jersey

    They didn't suggest that I leave it in their during Fermentation, I saw that on a YouTube video. They recommended that I open lid, insert Hydrometer, get reading, and remove.
     
  12. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    Okay, that makes much more sense, sorry for the misread. If using a bucket, there shouldn't be an issue doing that.
     
  13. drinkybanjo

    drinkybanjo Crusader (457) Sep 4, 2008 New Jersey

    I have a big mouth bubbler, I can get my arm inside.
     
  14. ShanePB

    ShanePB Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2010 Pennsylvania

    I must have misread too as I thought he was questioning if he can leave it in there full-time.
     
  15. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    I bought a speidel mostly for the spigot so samples are easy to pull. I usually put over 5 gallons of wort into the fermenter so I don't worry about losing a gravity sample. I like taking the samples for two reasons 1) gravity check 2) taste test.

    If you can clearly see the markings then that works. Sometimes I find it a pain to get a good reading with the jar because the hydrometer always wants to settle With the wrong side facing me.
     
  16. drinkybanjo

    drinkybanjo Crusader (457) Sep 4, 2008 New Jersey

    Thanks, to admit to my ignorance I was asking if I could leave it in there as I saw it on a YouTube video but that wasn't what my local home brew expert told me to do.
     
  17. JrGtr

    JrGtr Pooh-Bah (1,775) Apr 13, 2006 Massachusetts
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    I ill generally do that - if fermenting in a bucket, I'll sanitize the hydrometer, pop the lid, and place it in, giving it a spin to make sure that there isn't any bubbles or stuff stuck to it.
    If I'm in a carboy, I've put in in and left it there - after the krausen has fallen - to make sure.
    I have a Brett IPA going now that I dropped the hydrometer in over the weekend to check. With a carboy, I can't get it out easily, so I leave it in there.
     
  18. brunascle

    brunascle Crusader (438) Nov 4, 2010 Massachusetts

    I've done that during secondary fermentation with stouts, in a different carboy than primary fermentation; just dropped in the sanitized hydrometer and left it in for weeks. No much/any krausen to worry about.
     
  19. drinkybanjo

    drinkybanjo Crusader (457) Sep 4, 2008 New Jersey

    Being that it's still in the primary I cannot really get a good luck as the residue is hard to see through. Siphon it is unless I move to a secondary. The good news is I was able to sample my West Coast Red and its quite tasty, no off flavors that I can tell. My OG was 1050 and now I'm at 1010. I'm assuming it is ready for the keg, will take another reading on Friday and confirm.
     
  20. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    I definitely agree not to leave it in the primary, but I'm still content with checking in the bucket, despite the reasons above. I'm a homebrewer, not a pro Brewer, and I don't mind not having an absolute accurate reading due to not de-gassing, inability to be level with hydrometer, etc. I'm also not checking FG with krausen still on the beer. If the point is to figure out if fermentation is complete or not this method works fine.
     
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