Hype is not a flavor...

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by deleted_user_1007501, Apr 7, 2016.

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  1. deleted_user_1007501

    deleted_user_1007501 Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2015

    Or is it?

    Let me know if this has been discussed before (which I assume it has been hashed out many times).

    Being the time of year, I got my pack of KBS. I got home after a long day of work, cracked one open, and was...pretty underwhelmed. I know it's young and ideal for aging, but it was so hot and muddled the other flavors.

    But I did pick up a Maine Beer Co. Beer I, and that, I really enjoyed. Much, much more than Lunch. Even more than Lunch on draft.

    Later in the evening I cracked open an Alesmith IPA, a fairly accessible brew, and wondered why people aren't snagging this one every chance they get!

    I know it is all subjective to palate, but do you guys consider the hype an enhancement to the experience? Do you sip unbiased and open-minded?

    I'm okay with not enjoying hyped beers, but what are your two cents?
     
  2. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    No one is immune to the thoughts of others but I don't think hype influences my choices at all.
     
  3. lambpasty

    lambpasty Initiate (0) May 3, 2013 New Hampshire

    I find it's got a lot to do with one's frame of reference. If you've only ever had half a dozen mediocre IPAs, then you get a can of fresh heady, it's going to be the best beer you've ever had.

    If, on the other hand, you've had a hundred IPAs and half of them have been world-class, you may be less-then-blown-away by Heady and as such wind up disappointed.
     
  4. Ri0

    Ri0 Initiate (0) Jul 1, 2012 Wisconsin

    Seems to be something we can taste.
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  5. Groenebeor

    Groenebeor Initiate (0) Feb 14, 2009 California

    Perhaps you are one of us, the few that dare not to have commonly hyped beers as their favorite beer. I doubt I'll ever drink another BBA stout, or another double/imperial stout over 10% ABV ever again. I might have a few more DIPAs, especially since I'll be in California this summer. Belgians are cool too, but not my favorites of all times.
     
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  6. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey

    I think it is the opposite. Of you have only had a few mediocre IPAs Heady might be too much for you because you aren't ready.
    If you have had other world class IPAs you can appreciate the greatness of Heady.
     
  7. That_Bearded_Guy

    That_Bearded_Guy Savant (1,068) Jan 25, 2016 California
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    KBS is not ideal for aging, the coffee will fade over time. Not that you can't age it but, IMO its best fresh and this years batch I thought was awesome.
     
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  8. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    I'm afraid that a great deal of the hype surrounding certain beers and releases is driven by a good number of folks lacking experience with a broad range of beers from around the world. I spoke with a fellow that actually said to me that he doesn't need to try IPAs from anywhere but the USA. I would never trust his judgement about any beer. Beer is not a contest, it's a lifelong venture to develop ones' palate and to be open to both innovation and tradition.
     
  9. elucas730

    elucas730 Initiate (0) Feb 5, 2010 New York

    If you are on this forum, then you are influenced by hype. Anyone who says otherwise is disingenuous. Posting that you are not influenced by hype is supposed to be some kind of badge of honor, but the inference is that everyone else is influenced by hype while you are the one human in history who isnt. Please.
     
  10. connecticutpoet

    connecticutpoet Pooh-Bah (2,542) Jun 10, 2004 Connecticut
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    I have a tendency to look for beers that others have given good reviews, but I *usually* don't let that influence my rating. I've had some beers that were heavily hyped and given them bad ratings because I thought they sucked. But sometimes if a beer is well-liked I will give it a chance to grow on me, rather than decide to cut my losses and chug it.
     
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  11. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    If this is something you desire to do then you need to make the effort to drink beer totally blind (i.e., not knowing what the beer is). You need to get help from a partner to pour the beer for you so that you have no idea what you are drinking. This is truly the only method to assess a beer "unbiased and open-minded".

    I would encourage you to try this once (or twice or....)

    Cheers!
     
  12. deleted_user_1007501

    deleted_user_1007501 Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2015

    I like that. It's just beer. Only you know your own heavy-hitters. There shouldn't be a sense of urgency or ephemeral quality to brews. Life happens as it does, and one loves what one loves.
     
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  13. connecticutpoet

    connecticutpoet Pooh-Bah (2,542) Jun 10, 2004 Connecticut
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    Exactly. Sometimes I will even try a beer that I know isn't very good so I have a broader range of experiences to draw upon. If everything you've had is world class, then you may have a very good beer but consider it inferior quality. That's why I have a Schaefer in the fridge right now. I fully expect it to be nasty but I need it to keep things in perspective.
     
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  14. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Yes and kinda no. I love it fresh , I do. I also thinks it ages beautifully too, it softens around the edges , a bit less boozy, but still a great beer. Bcbcs changes proportionally as well, I think every BA stout settles in a bit with age.
     
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  15. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Is this why your avatar says "Ack"!?!:astonished:

    Cheers!
     
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  16. deleted_user_1007501

    deleted_user_1007501 Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2015

    I'm deserving of no badge, and I never implied I was the only one unbiased to hype. I am only curious to see what my peers and more experienced BAs think of it. I admittedly have been lured in by hype many times, creating a sense of urgency within myself to get my hands on a certain brew. But I've realized now, after trial and error, many times it's not been fulfilling to me. I'm just posing an irking question in my mind to fellow beer lovers.
     
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  17. That_Bearded_Guy

    That_Bearded_Guy Savant (1,068) Jan 25, 2016 California
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    Definitely agree. I love heavily coffee forward stouts though so thats why I enjoy it fresh. I would not recommend to somebody to age their KBS for for 2+ years, but around the 1 year mark? Absolutely. Doubt Ill have more than one bottle left in a year though!
     
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  18. connecticutpoet

    connecticutpoet Pooh-Bah (2,542) Jun 10, 2004 Connecticut
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    Sho' nuff!
     
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  19. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    It is not my intent to be confrontational here but:
    • Do you think you are unbiased to hype?
    • If so, why do you think this?
    Cheers!
     
  20. anfield86

    anfield86 Pooh-Bah (2,606) Nov 21, 2006 New Jersey
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    For what it's worth, Schaefer is a guilty pleasure beer of mine. Used to get it in 40s from a packie in New Bedford, MA. I think it's really good for what it is....and I second your opinion. I bought some Carta Blanca and Pacifico to go with some grilled carne asada tacos on a hot day. They both were much better than the general consensus and quite enjoyable. I stopped paying attention to hype years ago. I usually go by the old adage "expect the worst, hope for the best". I find that there are less let downs if you adjust expectations, especially when it comes to beer (a cellared bottle of Brooklyn black ops taught me this)
     
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