I don't think I like Cascade hops

Some people are all about the citra.

 

Jeff,

Accoring to the pie chart information that @jesskidden provided above (for 2013) there seems to be some discrepancy. The pie chart indicates:

· Zeus: 16.3%

· Cascade: 12.5%

· Columbus/Tomahawk: 8.7%

· Centennial: 4.8%

· Simcoe: 3.2%

Do you think this variance is due to counting acreage vs. production?

Cheers!

P.S. If you count CTZ as a singe variety it would be 25%.

 

The article in New Brewer has Ann George as the author. The author of the report for 2013 that JK linked to was - Ann George.

I checked the USDA numbers for 2014, and when added up they match the NB article.

 

So the discrepancy is 2013 numbers vs. 2014 numbers?

Cheers!

 

I need to look at 2013. There might be an error in the pie chart. Will look later.

 

Give a beer with cascade hop a good malt backbone and it is just fine. If one does the research it might surprise you what beers have cascade hops in them.

 

Cascade started a revolution. Anchor's Liberty Ale (the original one of that name in '75, the Paul Revere commemorative) was possibly the first although Henry Weinhard's Private Reserve Lager may have been before and it stressed the hop in early advertising, also '75 or somewhat earlier.

Despite the advent of many other hops, in my view, most of them taste like Cascade anyway: grapefruit pith, piney, floral. Yes, some are orangey (Amarillo), some more lemony, or on the dank side, etc., but they all have a family resemblance.

It's the new taste, new since since the mid-70's, and very different from the classic English and Noble hop families, the great hybrids like Northern Brewer, Brewer's Gold, Bullion and the early workhorse, Cluster.

Even if Cascade becomes the poor relation finally, it will have done its work, its lineage is in everything we drink.

 

A good history of Cascade hops. We have Coors to thank, really.
http://inhoppursuit.blogspot.com/2010/01/cascade-how-adolph-coors-helped-launch.html

 

Thanks for that, I am aware of it. Fascinating story.

 

It was certainly the choice of the time when the fuse of the hop bomb was being lit... I revere some beers that feature it but in some uses I find it unpleasantly (for me) coppery. I've heard that it was and still is preferred by a lot of brewers because of its flexibility in how it can be used -- brewers, weigh in, please? I suppose that's a good thing in the right hands but possibly for some brewers, it seems like it's being used to cover a multitude of sins.

 

The 2013 numbers from the USDA do not show CTZ being that high (~25%). Looking at the link in JK's post, other metrics don't show that either. Looking at the acreage between 2013, Cascade went up >1000 acres, and CTZ went down about 370 acres. The trend in less Alpha hops and more Aroma hops.

Variety 2013 acres 2014 Acres
Cascade 5288 6651
CTZ 6161 5790

Source is the USDA report.
http://usahops.org/userfiles/image/1402962283_2014 June Hop Acreage Report Revised.pdf

Edit - the pie chart says % of production. Would that be acres, tons, or Alpha Acid production. The last would make the CTZ bigger.

 

I don't know about the particular hops involved, but I dont like anything from Green Flash. I think the style and brewer impact the final product more so than any single hop especially if it in a Hop blend.

 

So are there any top IPAs either on current or beers of fame that use primarily/solely cascade hops?

 

Jeff, in my first reply to you I stated: “Do you think this variance is due to counting acreage vs. production?”

Maybe @jesskidden knows what “production” means here?

Cheers!

 

Production can mean how many tons or hops or how many tons of AA.