I hate lactose

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Effinwill, Dec 1, 2017.

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  1. JohnnyChicago

    JohnnyChicago Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2010 Illinois

    And I don’t get that labeling, along with the Sam Adams cream stout. Why would you dissuade potential buyers by suggesting you put an allergen in your beer that you didn’t?
     
  2. Jay_P22

    Jay_P22 Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2016 Virginia

    I like it.
     
  3. Moradin

    Moradin Initiate (0) Jul 7, 2016 New York

    Not a fan either. Too sweet. Been hating milk stouts since 1800s and milkshake neipas since... couple years ago. But is just my personal (my tastebuds') opinion. Too each his own I guess
     
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  4. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Damn, how old are you?
     
  5. ovaltine

    ovaltine Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,787) Apr 6, 2010 Indiana
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    Strawberry Milkshake, a DIPA by Bare Hands Brewery, has lactose. It was excellent, IMHO.
     
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  6. DrumKid003

    DrumKid003 Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2013 Oklahoma

    I'm alright with lactose as long as it's in a stout, or maybe a porter on very limited cases. Other than that I have yet to find an IPA, Pale Ale, or anything close to those styles that I enjoy and would bother drinking again.
     
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  7. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    I suppose that I'm not anti-lactose tolerant or intolerant, just label it.
     
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  8. utopiajane

    utopiajane Grand Pooh-Bah (3,982) Jun 11, 2013 New York
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    I dislike it in general as well and shy away from the milk stout because of it. There was a beer in that world beer case recently that used it and I did not dislike it that one time.
     
  9. mkez

    mkez Devotee (380) May 2, 2014 Wisconsin
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    Lactose is my favorite non-fermentable sugar.
     
  10. oudebueuze

    oudebueuze Initiate (0) Dec 12, 2012 California

    Wholeheartedly agree that it needs to be clearly labeled at all times for allergen and dietary preference reasons.

    What I don't get, sort of in an ideological sense, is that it seems like homebrewers and budding craft brewers have spent the better part of multiple generations increasing fermentation efficiency and *drying* out their beers, and now all-of-the-sudden it's trendy to essentially back-sweeten beers?

    Even Milk/Sweet Stouts, with their interesting history, are an early form of dairy nutritive propaganda. Unless I am mistaken, the style arose with a nutritional narrative, not a real desire to sweeten the beer (which was already plenty sweet back then).

    Now here we are with back-sweetened IPAs, and I suspect some of the same folks that enjoy them also deride nearly any form of malt-associated sweetness in other IPAs, particularly caramel malt. That is why I think it is more of a hollow fad than truly desirable beer quality.
     
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  11. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Umm . . it definitely IS craft beer, but it is certainly your choice as to whether or not you drink beers with unfermentable sugar added to them.

    So, you don't drink beers with anything other than grain, water, hops, and yeast in them?
     
  12. Effinwill

    Effinwill Crusader (433) Dec 2, 2016 California

    Craft beer is supposed to be quality product, made in artisanal fashion, with character achieved by skill, quality ingredients and experience, IMO. But some folks seem more concerned now with the business model than with the product when defining craft beer. For instance, goose bourbon barrel stout is craft beer regardless of what corporation owns the label. OTOH, poorly made swill laced with additives to mask your errors is simply bad beer. Macro beer is of higher quality.
     
  13. Effinwill

    Effinwill Crusader (433) Dec 2, 2016 California

    [QUOTE="oudebueuze, post: 5764229, member: 707244)
    What I don't get, sort of in an ideological sense, is that it seems like homebrewers and budding craft brewers have spent the better part of multiple generations increasing fermentation efficiency and *drying* out their beers, and now all-of-the-sudden it's trendy to essentially back-sweeten beers?.[/QUOTE]

    I agree. Beers that derive their residual sugars from malt - in a natural, traditional process - exhibit a better integration of flavors than these mistakes and cheapo holiday beers. In the latter case it seems they’re trying to extract every bit of ABV from a scant grain bill, then sweetening with industrial additives. Garbage!
     
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  14. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    It seems as if you do not understand how brewing beer works and are simply throwing around buzzwords that have no meaning. Many, many excellent and well rated craft brewers use sugar to great effect in their beers, whether it be to lighten the body or to enhance it. That is the prerogative of the brewer and demonstrates great skill when used correctly. Same goes for using other adjuncts like rice, corn, or oats. Instead of eschewing certain ingredients simply because they are not included in an outdated purity law enacted in one country, you should take the time to learn about the process of brewing.
     
  15. Brutaltruth

    Brutaltruth Grand Pooh-Bah (3,539) Mar 22, 2014 Ohio
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    As long as it is lightly sweet and not sickeningly sweet I personally like, but as
    said earlier...on a case per case basis.
     
  16. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    India Milk Pale Ale - Super opaque brah!

    I am not a fan of lactose in beers - they taste off to me, but thats just me. I've had a couple of these "milkshake" IPAs with lactose and I am not a fan. But, I don't really have strong feelings about them, so to those that like them I say enjoy! Its pretty much how I feel about nitro beers - don't personally care for 'em.
     
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  17. Effinwill

    Effinwill Crusader (433) Dec 2, 2016 California

    Haha, you're poorly informed and assume so much with so little information. I suppose glycol IPA is next. Heard its sweet and has great mouthfeel. Please try it and let me know how it goes.
     
  18. deleted_user_1007501

    deleted_user_1007501 Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2015

    Pardon if I’ve skimmed over a similar comment in the thread, but most IPAs with lactose I’ve had impart a somewhat sour or tartness to the beer, as well as mouthfeel.

    Am I wrong? Any beer with lactose has a huge potential to build a tart-ish component over a certain amount of time and storage, especially in IPAs, and even sometimes in milk stouts.
     
  19. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Here is your chance to rescue your posts. What specific beers do you know of that use additives to mask errors, and what errors do you think are being masked? And which macro beers do you know that don't use adjuncts/additives? And do you feel pretty confident you could correctly choose between a beer that is sweet from maltose and another sweet from lactose?
     
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  20. Brutaltruth

    Brutaltruth Grand Pooh-Bah (3,539) Mar 22, 2014 Ohio
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    Agreed, but depends on the brewer....sometimes the lactose does not translate well or is
    over done. Still, a solid well made milk stout is a thing of beauty as are the IPA's although much smaller in number compared to stouts as far as availability. Also a milk stout that sits on a shelf for too long can also impart a sour note.
     
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