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I have found my Pliny Killer

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by toofdoc, Nov 21, 2012.

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  1. Morey

    Morey Meyvn (1,083) Dec 30, 2007 Pennsylvania

    I think that when IPAs/DIPAs are done right, there's really quite a few of them that are on the same playing field. Just my opinion.

    The thing that makes me prefer a Pliny over say.... a ST 2XIPA, is that the bitterness lingers and the flavor sticks with you longer. Some of these newer citrus forward IPAs... (2x, Perpetual, White Raja) just don't have enough lingering hop flavor. The aroma and initial hop-bite are there, but the finish is lacking. If that makes sense?
  2. kneary13

    kneary13 Initiate (0) Jan 30, 2010 Massachusetts

    Kiwi Rising is a legit contender. Heady is tops, but i'd say Maine Beer 'Lunch' and Kiwi Rising are on it's heels. i've had Pliny once and think it's an incredible beer, but am a huge fan of the east coast IPAs!
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  3. ShaunNewman

    ShaunNewman Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Florida

    Cigar City's Jai Alai is pretty damn good.
  4. PWNtransplant

    PWNtransplant Initiate (0) Sep 9, 2012 Ohio

    Great Lakes Watershed: Lake Superior Brewing Company in Duluth and Lake Bluff Brewing north of Chicago.
  5. DaveAnderson

    DaveAnderson Devotee (490) Jan 11, 2011 Minnesota

    Neither one of which makes a Pliny killer.
  6. Schmittymack

    Schmittymack Zealot (510) Sep 3, 2008 Colorado

    Guess I'm in the minority; I think that Pliny is a really good beer but to me, it's mostly hype. I'd rather have a Mercenary, Hop Slam, or Dry Dock DIPA that is much more readily available with a whole lot less hype.
  7. distantmantra

    distantmantra Meyvn (1,026) May 23, 2011 Washington

    I will gladly take a Hop Venom over Pliny any day of the week.
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  8. rnorgart

    rnorgart Initiate (149) Nov 16, 2005 South Carolina

    I think pliney was maybe the best for me until I had double sunshine. Wow. And I would have to throw zombie dust in the conversation too.
  9. Kadonny

    Kadonny Meyvn (1,325) Sep 5, 2007 Pennsylvania

    Don't kid yourself please. If Pliny was an average beer, it would never be mentioned, let alone compared to, many, many other beers.
  10. fmccormi

    fmccormi Meyvn (1,365) Oct 24, 2010 California

    The beer that, for me, had the longest and most enjoyably hoppy finish I can think of is Palate Wrecker. Doesn't get the heaps of love that a lot of the other beers in this conversation get, and it's not my all-time favorite DIPA, but that may have the most memorable finish, for me.

    Can't WAIT until it comes out again in January-ish :-)
  11. williamjbauer

    williamjbauer Initiate (0) Jan 17, 2012 Colorado

    Pliny is a comfort dipa for me when I can get it. I think hopslam and heady topper are easily in the same league if not better overall when fresh.
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  12. mikedeclercq

    mikedeclercq Initiate (0) Nov 19, 2012 California

    Pliney is fantastic... lot's of good IPA's out there pretty comparable. Look for the up-and-coming 831 IPA from Sante Adairius. Really good!
  13. Stinger80OH

    Stinger80OH Champion (833) Nov 11, 2011 Ohio

    After doing some trading for awhile now, Ive had the privilege of trying Pliny, HT, and several other great IPAs that are not available in Ohio. Fat Heads Head Hunter and The Brew Kettle's White Rajah (and local tap-only Black Rajah) are outstanding IPAs and since they are local and fresh, I opt for them because of their ready availability. I will still take extra HTs and such in trades, but with HH and WR here, Im not seeking out the "Plinys" of the world anymore.

  14. Morey

    Morey Meyvn (1,083) Dec 30, 2007 Pennsylvania

    Yeah, I have had it a couple of times, but unfortunately it wasn't very fresh either time.
  15. fmccormi

    fmccormi Meyvn (1,365) Oct 24, 2010 California

    I wrote my review when it was pretty damn fresh, I think, and I thought it was pretty great then. I get the impression that the hopping was very late boil- and dry hop-focused, which would make sense given the idea behind the beer, and also since that seems to be true for any of these superhype hoppy pales.
  16. Brunite

    Brunite Initiate (0) Sep 21, 2009 Illinois

    Love the objectivity maintained by this position.

    Certainly and absolutely...and without question, I do. At least IMHO...I think?
  17. grandmeaulnes

    grandmeaulnes Initiate (0) Oct 18, 2010 Ohio

    Glad you see the truth in the assertion. :slight_smile:
  18. Brunite

    Brunite Initiate (0) Sep 21, 2009 Illinois

    Hard to miss...unless I forget to bring my "rose-colored my-way-or-the-highway" glasses!
  19. borderican

    borderican Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2011 California

    I totally agree with you here! Aroma coma had me tasting Kern River Citra in some gulps(no bull)
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  20. cavedave

    cavedave Poo-Bah (2,512) Mar 12, 2009 New York

    It makes total sense if you look at the recipe for Pliny you see why, crazy dry hopping schedule, crazy boil schedule, lotta hop variety. Dry hop gets pulled, and more added in secondary. Stuff most brewers don't/won't do.

    Lots of great beer all around, we're in heaven, man. Imagine Pliny now is just another great American hop masterpiece.
  21. rodlavers

    rodlavers Zealot (582) Jun 20, 2012 Maryland

    I have had Pliny only once, it was about 6 weeks old (this was back in April), and I thought it was good, probably the best of its style I'd had at the time. Since then, and much more recently, I have gone through three cases of Head Hunter this fall and I have to say it is better than the Pliny I had. I may even like Head Hunter more than Heady Topper. For me, both HH and HT are superior to PtE.
  22. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Champion (869) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    Flying Fish Exit 16, a wild rice DIPA
  23. Dannywhitewash

    Dannywhitewash Initiate (0) Dec 19, 2010 Ohio

    Ruination 10th anniversary... That was my pliny killer! Its a shame that stone isn't brewing that anymore..
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  24. toofdoc

    toofdoc Initiate (0) Jun 28, 2011 New Mexico

    Drink more pliny, not a fair comparison...
  25. toofdoc

    toofdoc Initiate (0) Jun 28, 2011 New Mexico

    I like you, are Jai Alai biased, but honestly its not in the same conversation as these other brews we are talking about here...
  26. Pelican5

    Pelican5 Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2012 California

    ISO : Head Hunter

    Love Pliny, Duet, Heady, Columbus and White Rajah. If HH is in this league prove it... BM me a lets set something up!
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