I just can't get into Maibocks

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  1. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    What did you "hate" about it? Might give those of us offering suggestions a better idea of what to recommend.
     
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  2. hoptheology

    hoptheology Grand Pooh-Bah (5,379) May 12, 2014 South Dakota
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    Zing! Bocks are Lagers!
     
  3. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    The summit is very similar to the HB. Can you tell us why you didn't like it?

    How do you feel about Oktoberfest-Märzen?
     
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  4. hoptheology

    hoptheology Grand Pooh-Bah (5,379) May 12, 2014 South Dakota
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    hoptheology Grand Pooh-Bah (5,379) May 12, 2014 South Dakota
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    I really love some of them, but others are downright horrible.

    My favorite is Lucky Bucket's Oktoberfest, my least favorite is Sam Adams's Octoberfest.

    Most of the others fall in between.
     
  6. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Not necessarily -- see Weizenbocks that are top-fermented, but I'd never call that an "ale."
     
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  7. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    Sounds like you got a bad/old bottle(s). I wouldn't recommend reviewing -- or judging -- a beer (much less an entire "style") on such bases. If you just find Maibocks/bocks "boring," then maybe the style just isn't for you.
     
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  8. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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  9. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    I might have said that too, but he definitely picks out the sweet and toasted malts that aren't very appealing to his palate. He should probably stick to more pale Maibocks, don't you think?
     
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  10. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Owned by ABInbev. Are they introuble, or is ABInbev deciding to import other German brands they own?
     
  11. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Or pack them up and brew them in St. Louis? :rolling_eyes:
     
  12. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Seasonal release as opposed to year-round distribution? :wink:
     
  13. Lurchus

    Lurchus Zealot (733) Jan 19, 2014 Germany

    so when I release a Pils as a summer seasonal and call it Sommerpils, it becomes a seperate style?:wink:
     
  14. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    It's just another (absurd) consequence of making beer a competition.

    How about these from the BJCP: Franconian and Munich Kellerbier as distinct "styles"?

    "Entry Instructions: The entrant must specify whether the entry is a Munich Kellerbier (pale, based on Helles) or a Franconian Kellerbier (amber, based on Märzen). The entrant can specify another type of Kellerbier based on other base styles such as Pils, Bock, Schwarzbier, but should supply a style description for judges."
     
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  15. TheNightwatchman

    TheNightwatchman Initiate (0) Mar 28, 2009 Pennsylvania

    My understanding is that maibock and helles/heller bock are used interchangeably, so I guess it's technically a proper style.
     
  16. Lurchus

    Lurchus Zealot (733) Jan 19, 2014 Germany

    what the Hell, whoever thought this was a good idea does not understand franconian and bavarian beer culture at all-very sad.
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  17. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    The saddest part to me is that literally 1000s of brewers here will take at least some part of this as trustworthy -- and even brew commercial beers based on these criteria. Hell, they'll probably even win awards based on hitting all the "right" notes and then use those to market their beers are exemplars of the "style." This type of thing has already been going on for years in the U.S. and it drives me crazy....
     
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  18. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    No, have to name it with a month: Julipils. Nice ring to it, don'cha think? :slight_smile: (Sierra Nevada's Summer release is a Pilsner they've labeled Summeriest -- falls in line, no? :wink:)
     
  19. Lurchus

    Lurchus Zealot (733) Jan 19, 2014 Germany

    And then a fresh barrel of traditional Kellerbier from franconia is entered in the competition-and looses because it is not "true to style":.......
    wow. Somehow I am glad not to live in the USA beerwhise, but seeing how the craft community is developing in germany these days, i am kind of afraid of the future.
     
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  20. bleakies

    bleakies Maven (1,355) Apr 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    As a young sprout I found most bocks distasteful, as they were too sweet for my tastes. But eventually I came around to them and lately I've been drinking lots of Troegs Cultivator, Berkshire Maibock, and two by Pretty Things: Bocky Bier and Lovely St Winefride, which are both darker bocks (though the latter calls itself a strong dark lager or something like that).

    Still, if you never develop a taste for them the world will continue spinning on its axis and all will be well.
     
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