Idea for a "one year" beer?

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  1. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    Hey all. Things are crazy in my life right now and I was thinking that by next Super Bowl, Super Bowl 50 on 2/7/16, things should be pretty calm (I hope). I want to brew something this coming weekend, something big, something that takes a while to develop it's flavors and bottle condition, that can be opened during next years' Super Bowl. I think sipping that beer, knowing that it was brewed during a crazy time in my life, will be a way to celebrate making it through it all. As such, I'm looking for style ideas, or even recipes for brews you did that took one year from brew date to drink date.

    Let me say up front, I am not into Belgian brews. I used to love them, but I lost my taste for them about two years ago and can't stand them. So no Quads or anything in that vein. Truthfully, I'm not even really into "big beers," I tend to stick to sessionable classic styles like Pilsners, English Pale Ales and Porters, etc. However, every now and then a big beer comes by that really impresses me. So this likely won't be a 5 gallon batch. Probably only a 3 gallon, or maybe even less, as I will have some of this and share the rest (likely at a Super Bowl party I will throw next year - but with some folks that enjoy bigger beers in attendance). While I've enjoyed a number of stronger beers over the years, the one that I have always thought was excellent was Sam Smith's Yorkshire Stingo. That beer is excellent. Liquified dried fruits is what it tastes like to me. Truly wonderful. Something like that would be great, though I know it's not tremendously strong (8% I believe), so it might have to be a bit beefier. Honestly, I'm open to most all suggestions. Barleywines, a huge stout, stingos, stickes (maybe they're not "big enough" for such an extended aging period), imperial XYZ, you name it and I'll consider it. Also, please share any personal stories/advice you have about aging beers for so long (should I absolutely do this in car boy, or can I use a bucket? I'd hate to tie up my one glass car boy for an entire year). I've got to imagine some of you have done a huge stout at some point....

    Thanks in advance!

    PS: Here's hoping my team, the New York Giants are playing in Super Bowl 50! Ha, yeah right....
     
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  2. premierpro

    premierpro Savant (1,060) Mar 21, 2009 Michigan

    I bottle condition my big beers after they sit on the yeast for four weeks. My favorite big beer is English barley wine. The one I am drinking on now is very good. I took my 10 gallon ESB recipe and made a 5 gallon batch. Marris Otter base with a half pound each of crystal 40 and 120. Finnish hops were East Kent. Good luck!
     
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  3. bgjohnston

    bgjohnston Initiate (0) Jan 14, 2009 Connecticut

    I like a nice big barleywine, too, and also a RIS to cellar for a year or more after bottling. If you brew it to at least 8% ABV (more or less), it will easily condition nicely for a year or more. I had one of my 10% RIS bottled in 2012 about a month ago, and if anything it has continued to get better.

    Depending on your brewing interests, a Flanders Red takes at least a year to make, too.

    In the end, anything that does not rely too much on hop aroma is a good choice. Dopplebock, big stout, barleywine, American sour, etc. You have a huge range of potential choices. Enjoy!
     
  4. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    Wheatwine, or a hefty scotch ale.
     
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  5. MADhombrewer

    MADhombrewer Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2008 Oregon

    Old ale. I did one and had a bottle left after a year. I wish I had more than just that one.
     
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  6. bgjohnston

    bgjohnston Initiate (0) Jan 14, 2009 Connecticut

    Good point. If you haven't done this before, you may find you have to hide some of them from yourself if you want to actually have any after a year! I have re-brewed big beers that I have really liked about 6 months after bottling the first batch, for just this reason.
     
  7. ronobvious2

    ronobvious2 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2010 Tennessee

    I was thinking about doing an Imperial Stout to stretch myself and take on something new. In the reviews people are saying the longer you set it sit, the better it gets. I know its 5 gallons but it fits your bill, I think.
     
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  8. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    Good suggestions thus far, thanks. Regarding some of the above styles mentioned, I suppose what I'm really interested in is not just a beer that's still good a year after being brewed, but that's at it's best a year after brewing. That may be a tall order obviously.

    Old Ale, good idea. I'd love to see the recipe.
    A scotch ale would be interesting. Any good recipes you could point me towards?
    I'd love to do a Doppelbock! One of my favorite styles. Unfortunately, I can't pull off the lagering right now. I wonder about doing a Doppelbock grain/hop bill but with an ale yeast. Any thoughts on that or recommendations?
     
  9. premierpro

    premierpro Savant (1,060) Mar 21, 2009 Michigan

    I have brewed lager recipes with the 34/70 lager yeast at 66 degrees. This would work well in a Doppelbock.
     
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  10. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    Cool, thanks. I will look into this.
     
  11. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    Anyone recommend any good English Barleywines to try while I'm mulling this decision? I've had Sacuba and really enjoyed it.
     
  12. sjverla

    sjverla Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2008 Massachusetts

    Pretty Things Our Finest Regards always makes me really happy.

    For an English Barleywine, I'd do mostly Maris Otter or Pearl, with a little bit of dark crystal and a dash of pale chocolate malt. Bitter to ~35-40 and finish with a little EKG. I'm drinking mine a year later and it's better than it was but still falls into the 'Pretty good I guess' range, hence why I'm not sharing my specific recipe.
     
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  13. Naugled

    Naugled Pooh-Bah (1,944) Sep 25, 2007 New York
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    100% oat imperial stout
     
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  14. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Jesse, last October I brewed a Robust Porter that is a clone of Hill Farmstead Everett. That beer turned out great. Since I know from past correspondence that you like big, thick, chewy Porters this might be a good candidate for you.

    It has been my consistent experience that dark beers that are bottle conditioned last a looooong time. I have 10 beers left of a Bourbon Barrel Porter that I brewed in the Fall of 2013 that are still drinking beautifully; they are over a year old at this point.

    I would recommend that you make a 5 gallon batch no matter what you choose to brew; the more the merrier.

    Cheers!
     
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    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    Thanks Jack, I appreciate it. A big, chewy, robust porter would be nice. I'm also thinking about an English Barleywine. Not sure. Before we proceed with the porter conversation, I am curious as to what you think of this recipe for an English Barleywine that I came across:

    Malts
    5 lbs. Briess Pale Ale Malt
    3.5 lbs. Crisp Maris Otter
    1.5 lbs. Caramel Munich
    6 oz. Briess 2 Row Caramel 120
    6 oz. Briess 2 Row Caramel 20
    4 oz. Crisp Chocolate Malt

    Hops
    0.65 oz Bravo at 60 min.
    0.5 oz. Kent Goldings at 25 min.
    0.5 oz. Kent Goldings at 10 min

    Yeasts
    White Labs WLP013 London Ale
    White Labs WLP099 Super High Gravity Ale
     
  16. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    @JackHorzempa I should have mentioned, that recipe is for a 2.5 gallon batch.
     
  17. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Jesse, I may not be the best person to provide comments since I am personally not a fan of the English Barleywine style (I often find them to be a bit too sweet for my palate).

    My first comment is what is the batch size for this recipe? The malt amounts appear to be way low for a 5 gallon batch.

    If I were to homebrew an English Barleywine I would solely use English Pale Malt as my base malt and I would use a simpler crystal malt routine; maybe just two choices like CaraMunich and 120L Crystal.

    I would also make it a point to use a yeast strain that produces a lot of English ‘character’. I would think that WLP013 would be a good choice. One of my favorite high character English yeast strains is Danstar Windsor.

    Some beer brewing practices that are key to making a high gravity beer like a Barleywine:

    · Proper aeration/oxygenation of the wort

    · Pitch lots of yeast

    · Maintain a fermentation temperature that is on the cooler side to mitigate the production of higher alcohols (fusel oils)

    Good luck with your English Barleywine if you go that route.

    Cheers!
     
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  18. LuskusDelph

    LuskusDelph Initiate (0) May 1, 2008 New Jersey

    It's not really a true 'Old Ale' until it's at least a year old.
     
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  19. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    A total of 11 lbs. of malt is pretty high for a 2,5 gallon batch.

    If I were to homebrew a 2.5 gallon batch my grain bill would be:

    · 8 lbs. English Pale Malt

    · 5 ounces of Caramunich

    · 5 ounces of 120L English Crystal Malt

    By the way the hopping schedule appears to be OK. Do you use brewing software? If so, you might want to confirm that you are achieving your desired IBUs. I personally would shoot for the high side of the style guideline range; maybe something like 60 IBUs.

    Hopefully some BA that brews lots of English Barleywines will chime in and provide their advice.

    Cheers!
     
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  20. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    This was just a recipe I found on homebrew talk, it's the hopping schedule they recommended.
     
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