Ideas for my first AG batch?

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  1. standardcherry

    standardcherry Initiate (0) Jan 17, 2011 Massachusetts

    Title is self-explanatory. I usually do partial mash 5 gallon batches. I've done AG before but in small 1 gallon batches. Now I moved on to a 5 gallon set up with wort chiller, fermentation chamber and everything. My mash tun is only 5 gallons so I have to keep the gravity low. I would like to make something simple, sessionable and nice for the hot weather. I can't make up my mind between a citrusy pale ale, a wheat beer or something along those lines. Anyone care to share their recipes? Thanks!
     
  2. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    Hefeweizen
    5 lbs Wheat malt
    4 lbs Pilsner malt
    1 oz any Noble hop (60 min)
    Wyeast 3068
     
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  3. MaxSpang

    MaxSpang Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2011 Ohio
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    I would make something that can stand to go up or down in terms of gravity. My first AG batch had really low efficiency and I ended up with a beer that was like 3.2% ABV (it was supposed to be over 6%). Sucked.

    Wheat will sometimes cause a stuck sparge, so I wouldn't recommend doing a wheat as your first AG. A nice pale ale or IPA would be good IMO. Maybe try to find a recipe that is formulated to like 65% efficiency just in case.


    Just remember, something will probably go wrong your first few AG batches. It's kind of like learning to drive a stick shift after driving automatics - it takes getting used to. RDWHAHB
     
  4. MLucky

    MLucky Initiate (0) Jul 31, 2010 California

    Are you sure you want to use that 5 gallon mash tun? You're eventually going to have to get something larger if you're going AG, so you might want to think about upgrading now rather than later.

    If you're going to use the 5 gal, then obviously it has to be a relatively low OG beer, so I would say do an APA, and don't scrimp on hops (which as you know can cover a lot of flaws, should they arise). Also, it's a good idea to have some DME on hand to add to the boil in case your efficiency is low. Good luck! AG is totally the way to go, you won't be sorry.
     
  5. nanobrew

    nanobrew Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2008 California

    Malt:
    9 lbs Pale malt (2 row, marris otter, golden promise, etc)
    0.5 Crystal 40L

    mash at 152 for 45min with roughly 1.75 qt/lb. Sparge to collect 6.5 gallons (depending on your boil of rate). Even at a eff of 50% you are still at 1.034 OG, which shouldn't be too bad. Ideally you will be closer to 70% and get 1.048 OG

    Hops:
    1 oz Centennial 60min
    1 oz Centennial 10min
    2 oz Centennial Flameout

    Yeast:
    San Diego Ale (either starter or two vials)
     
  6. SFB

    SFB Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2008 Oregon

    When I did my first all grain I did an adaptation of one of my part mash brews that was really good. I would recommend doing just that.
     
  7. yinzer

    yinzer Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2006 Pennsylvania

    I always advise that your first AG mash should be a dry run. It would be a help to know how close you can get to your predicted temps. To see if you get a stuck sparge, if you destroy your manifold when you stir, etc. Malt is pretty cheap.

    Since you've been doing partials you might have this all worked out, but just a thought.
     
  8. standardcherry

    standardcherry Initiate (0) Jan 17, 2011 Massachusetts

    What do you mean by this? Unfortunately malt isn't cheap for me since I have to get it shipped internationally :confused:.
     
  9. tngolfer

    tngolfer Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2012 Tennessee

    I have a 10 gallon mash-lauter tun so I'm trying to picture this in relation to mine. 9 lbs of grain with a water ratio of 1.75 qt/lb seems like it wouldn't fit. That's almost 4 gallons of water in a 5 gallon mlt plus grains. I haven't tried so I'm not saying it wouldn't work but you are going to be cutting it super close. If you are using that much grain I would hang closer to 1.25-1.4 qt/lb for a 5 gallon mlt.
     
  10. nanobrew

    nanobrew Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2008 California

    that is true, I have a large mash tun (18 gallon) so i typically don't have to worry about not fitting my mash and forgot the OP has a 5 gallon.
     
  11. CBlack85

    CBlack85 Pooh-Bah (2,762) Jul 12, 2009 South Carolina
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    I would suggest doing something simple like a SMaSH beer. When I first started all grain I did a series of SMaSH beers so I could get a better feel for the ingredients.
     
  12. sergeantstogie

    sergeantstogie Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2010 Washington

    Theres gotta be a LHBS in Boston!
     
  13. standardcherry

    standardcherry Initiate (0) Jan 17, 2011 Massachusetts

    There is one pretty close to where I live in Boston but I'm in Guatemala at the moment and I'll be here for the foreseeable future (apart from a few visits to Boston here and there).
     
  14. standardcherry

    standardcherry Initiate (0) Jan 17, 2011 Massachusetts

    Read into this and it sounds interesting. Found one made with otter and amarillo which sounds good. You got any specific recipes you could recommend?
     
  15. pneumaticaxe

    pneumaticaxe Initiate (0) Mar 3, 2010 New Jersey

    I'd do a SMaSH with Maris Otter\Fuggles. Can't go wrong with that combo and it'l keep things simple.
     
  16. yinzer

    yinzer Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2006 Pennsylvania

    I hope that this doesn't sound snarky, but the malt and hops is your recipe. The quantity of malt is your gravity. The amount of hops is your bitterness. Any brewing software can help.

    That being said, figuring your gravity is about the only 100% calculation that you can make. Bitterness can be calculated, but varies immensely. It depends on hops freshness, your process, etc. You can also pick the mash temp, but I feel that this is something that in the end you have to proof with your taste buds. Homebrewers mash tuns aren't all equal. If you are get readings around 154*F and you feel that your wort is too fermentable try going up a few degrees. If things improve then you will realize that your reading the upped part of a larger window.

    The third part of course is yeast. You can get a pretty straight forward explanation from the suppliers site.

    Last part and for me the hardest part is correcting things. For instance you feel that the back end is too thick. Is that just the Maris Otter? Did you mash too warm. Did you mash okay for WLP001 but you picked a English yeast? Is everything good but you have 1.7 volumes of carbination and need 2.5? Did you ferment too hot?
     
  17. CBlack85

    CBlack85 Pooh-Bah (2,762) Jul 12, 2009 South Carolina
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    One of my favorites so far has been Vienna/Galaxy. Really turned out nice, the great thing about a SMaSH beer is it gives you the ability to really see how your setup reacts to minor changes: mash temp, water profile, thinner/thicker mash, etc

    11 lb Vienna Malt
    1 oz. Galaxy (14%) (First Wort Hop)
    1/2 oz. Galaxy (14%) (10 min)
    1/2 oz. Galaxy (14%) (Flame out)
    1 oz. Galaxy (14%) (Dry Hop - 7 days)
    US-05 / WLP001 / 1056 (Whichever you prefer)

    Mash @ 154 F
    Ferment cool (66 F)

    SG - 1.059
    FG - 1.017
    ~75 IBU
     
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