"Imperial" Beers

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  1. Relik

    Relik Zealot (603) Apr 20, 2011 Canada (NS)

    A few questions:
    1. Aside from your typical IPAs or Stouts what beer style would be acceptable at a higher ABV to consume
    2. What beer style would you gravitate to if it was dubbed "Imperial"? keep in mind IPA and Stouts are not acceptable answers for this exercise frankly because they are too common.
    3. do you consider say dopplebock the "imperial" version of a traditional bock ? or a triple an "imperial" version of a belgian blond?
     
    #1 Relik, Mar 11, 2016
  2. hopnado

    hopnado Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2014 Michigan

    I could go for an imperial wheatwine right about now. I don't shy away from a tremendous buzz. More wheatwines in general would be a nice change of pace
     
    #2 hopnado, Mar 11, 2016
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  3. Relik

    Relik Zealot (603) Apr 20, 2011 Canada (NS)

    What is and imperial wheat-wine? Wheat-wine by itself is 8-12% how high is an "imperial" version?

    You answered 1 question out of 3. but i thank you for your imput.
     
    #3 Relik, Mar 11, 2016
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  4. JD_Bogerdy

    JD_Bogerdy Initiate (0) Jan 12, 2013 Florida

    1. Any style is acceptable as an imperial, even a traditionally low abv style since you are designating it 'imperial'.

    2. I don't gravitate towards any styles simply because they are imperial. If I was going to give an answer, it would be IPAs and Stouts.

    3. Doppelbocks ARE imperial bocks. 'Doppel' is German for Double.
     
    #4 JD_Bogerdy, Mar 11, 2016
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  5. hopnado

    hopnado Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2014 Michigan

    Guess I completely misunderstood your question. Is this test graded?...If so I quit
     
    #5 hopnado, Mar 11, 2016
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  6. Relik

    Relik Zealot (603) Apr 20, 2011 Canada (NS)

    So Imperial Gose? Imperial Berliner Weise? Are those something you'd consume?
    I know Doppel means double but as a style a doppelbock and an "imperial" Helles bock look totally different.
     
    #6 Relik, Mar 11, 2016
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  7. Relik

    Relik Zealot (603) Apr 20, 2011 Canada (NS)

    no but i just hoped that people would give insights on all 3 or even 2 out of 3 questions i have.
    cheers.
     
    #7 Relik, Mar 11, 2016
  8. hopnado

    hopnado Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2014 Michigan

    What do you mean by "dubbed" imperial?
     
    #8 hopnado, Mar 11, 2016
  9. Relik

    Relik Zealot (603) Apr 20, 2011 Canada (NS)

    a style such as Imperial Pilsner or Imperial Saison or Imperial Kolsch. Just a higher ABV version of a style and thus they slapped an Imperial prefix.
     
    #9 Relik, Mar 11, 2016
  10. Eli2814

    Eli2814 Initiate (0) Jan 21, 2016 California

    Imperial beeline would be nice. I love the way they taste, but ya gotta drink 1000 of em to feel anything!
     
    #10 Eli2814, Mar 11, 2016
  11. hopnado

    hopnado Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2014 Michigan

    OK, I stick with my original choice of imperial wheatwine which 'would' clock in around 15%. I don't care if that's acceptable to anyone. I gravitate to beers that taste good, not because of their title
     
    #11 hopnado, Mar 11, 2016
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  12. JD_Bogerdy

    JD_Bogerdy Initiate (0) Jan 12, 2013 Florida

    Not sure if I've had an Imperial gose but only a matter of time. I've had plenty of imperial berliners and love them. Just look at de gardes imperial bu series.

    Helles means light. A helles bock is not a 'standard' bock, which is dark. A doppelbock is a double bock aka imperial.
     
    #12 JD_Bogerdy, Mar 11, 2016
  13. Relik

    Relik Zealot (603) Apr 20, 2011 Canada (NS)

    Yeah thats fine, one huge beer but you like what you like. Thanks for your imput.
     
    #13 Relik, Mar 11, 2016
  14. Mshea805

    Mshea805 Initiate (0) Apr 12, 2014 California

    Well since you took out the IPA and Stout choices then Imperial Porter is the obvious choice. Barleywine, wee heavy's and old ales are all "imperial" strength and are favorites as well.
     
    #14 Mshea805, Mar 11, 2016
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  15. Relik

    Relik Zealot (603) Apr 20, 2011 Canada (NS)

    Helles also means "bright" or "pale" so you have a pale 9% Imperial Helles.
    Now take a Doppel Bock that is typically (not always) darker ruby to brown in colour and say its at 9% also.
    Does that mean that the Imperial Helles is also a Doppel Bock?
     
    #15 Relik, Mar 11, 2016
  16. Groenebeor

    Groenebeor Initiate (0) Feb 14, 2009 California


    Bocks don't really exist in Germany, at least as a single style. It's really referring to a group of "starkbiers." The few beers there labeled as just Ur-Bock or Bock are basically the same strength as "doppelbocks."
     
    #16 Groenebeor, Mar 11, 2016
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  17. Groenebeor

    Groenebeor Initiate (0) Feb 14, 2009 California

    No, because Munich Helles Lager is not a bock at all
     
    #17 Groenebeor, Mar 11, 2016
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  18. Relik

    Relik Zealot (603) Apr 20, 2011 Canada (NS)

    Cheers, kinda splitting hairs on the Porter/Stout controversy that i don't want to get into, but thank you.
     
    #18 Relik, Mar 11, 2016
  19. Relik

    Relik Zealot (603) Apr 20, 2011 Canada (NS)

    well the lovely people at the BJCP would disagree with you and lump Maibock and Helles Bock together under section 5A.
     
    #19 Relik, Mar 11, 2016
  20. Groenebeor

    Groenebeor Initiate (0) Feb 14, 2009 California

    Helles bock is not the same thing as a Munich Helles Lager. My mistake, I thought you guys were talking about Munich Helles.
     
    #20 Groenebeor, Mar 11, 2016
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