"Imperial" Beers

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Relik, Mar 11, 2016.

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  1. deadsincebirth

    deadsincebirth Initiate (0) Jul 24, 2014 Illinois

    1. No beer style should be upped in ABV. I feel they are fine where they are and I'd like to enjoy the taste of a beer w/o getting hammered.

    2. I gravitate towards no style with the Imperial titling. There are imperial styles that are naturally high in ABV w/o the imperial distinction ( barleywine, strong ale)

    3. No. Each is its own style. Each have different variables when becoming besides simply upping the ABV.

    Thank you, Jake
     
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  2. Dan_K

    Dan_K Pooh-Bah (1,980) Nov 8, 2013 Colorado
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    Last year I tried both an imperial Pilsner (Grimm Brothers Batch 500) and an Imperial Saison (River North J. Marie). Both were good, but the Imperial Saison was much better of the two.
     
  3. thuey

    thuey Pooh-Bah (1,705) Nov 13, 2015 California
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    I'm partial to the Double DBA myself.
     
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  4. counciloak

    counciloak Initiate (0) Aug 28, 2015 Indiana


    1. N/A Beer

    2. Imperial N/A Beer

    3. Too ignorant on Belgian beers to have an opinion
     
  5. UrbanCaveman

    UrbanCaveman Pooh-Bah (1,866) Sep 30, 2014 Ohio
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    I've had two beers labeled as Imperial wits, one from Ten Ninety and one from Boulevard. Both were pretty delicious, and I'd buy the heck out of them were they commonly found in my area.

    Alas, per @TheJermis , Boulevard's Two Jokers is no longer produced. Just in time for them to see distribution to Ohio, of course. :slight_frown:

    EDIT: Corrected a brain malfunction where I meant "wit" but typed "hefeweizen". Apparently I need to drink more alcohol to function properly.
     
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  6. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    I thought you just said bocks don't exist... :confused:
     
  7. MikeP64

    MikeP64 Zealot (661) Jan 24, 2015 South Carolina

    Great Thread!
    Imperial Brown ale...and yes if anyone suggests one make sure it's available in S.C. or I don't want to hear about it.
     
  8. Scott17Taylor

    Scott17Taylor Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2013 Iowa
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    1. I'd like to see imperial brown ales, palo is one of my favorite beers and I'd like there to be more available like it. Also I like higher abv barleywines, olde ales, and I'd like to see a high abv version of a dunkel lager. I think pumpkin beers could use higher alcohol to balance the spices, I have a rumpkin in the cellar so I guess I'll find out.
    2. I'm not going to gravitate to it because the call it imperial, but I'd like to see a distinction between stronger barleywines and olde ales. I like them on the stronger side preferably over 10%.
    3. I don't
     
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  9. Groenebeor

    Groenebeor Initiate (0) Feb 14, 2009 California

    Re-read my post, I said that bocks are more of a group of lagers, not a single beer style.
     
  10. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    I was just pokin' at you... nothing serious. :wink:
     
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  11. Groenebeor

    Groenebeor Initiate (0) Feb 14, 2009 California

    OP, I just want to make sure you're aware that the imperial moniker isn't really being used as much anymore. The entire craft industry has been trending to using words like "strong" and "double" for awhile. Some styles and breweries are exceptions, but even the BJCP is moving that direction.
     
  12. akolb

    akolb Initiate (0) Aug 8, 2015 Colorado

    1. There are some beers that should definitely not be imperialized. Pilsners, pale ales, bitters, ESBs, amber ales, hefeweizens, witbiers, and many more are delicious in part because of their combination of low-ABV drinkability and nice flavors.
    2. I've enjoyed the few imperial brown ales that I've had. Other than that, I can't think of any styles that I'd rather see as imperial.
    3. Dopplebocks are certainly stronger bocks, but I view tripels and Belgian blondes as having very different yeast characters. When I think "imperial" I think of not only ABV but bitterness. So I wouldn't consider a dopplebock to be an "imperial bock."
     
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  13. Prince_Casual

    Prince_Casual Savant (1,236) Nov 3, 2012 District of Columbia
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    Imperial Barelywines are where it's at, for me at least.
     
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  14. Relik

    Relik Zealot (603) Apr 20, 2011 Canada (NS)

    I see them as interchangeable.
     
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  15. Groenebeor

    Groenebeor Initiate (0) Feb 14, 2009 California

    Of course they are, I'm just talking about where the industry is headed.
     
  16. Relik

    Relik Zealot (603) Apr 20, 2011 Canada (NS)

    The fact that "imperial" and "double" mean the same doesn't matter what is used more the idea is the same.
     
  17. Groenebeor

    Groenebeor Initiate (0) Feb 14, 2009 California

    I think agree with what the one poster said on the first page, you're not really here but to argue and you're kind of dense.
     
  18. Relik

    Relik Zealot (603) Apr 20, 2011 Canada (NS)

    You agreed that Double and Imperial mean the same thing. If a brewery wants to call a beer and Imperial or a Double the outcome doesn't matter what is more prevalent? They are 2 words that mean the same thing. They both convey the same meaning.

    Now i am to understand that this is an internet forum related to discussing beer. This thread that i started posed 3 questions with really only 2 constraints. No Double/Imperial IPA or Imperial/ Double Stouts. Every other style was fair game. Iam pretty sure we are allowed to have different opinions, and give reasons supporting those options, and ask follow up questions.
    I don't think everyone should agree on every topic or this site would be a "like" parade and id have Poobah status 2 years ago. Arguing ≠ disagreeing.
     
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  19. mudbug

    mudbug Pooh-Bah (1,762) Mar 27, 2009 Oregon
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    Meh, It's just a descriptor that brewers can use to indicate higher ABV and more assertive taste. Much like now you can stick "IPA" onto the tail end of almost anything to indicate a hoppy flavor. The way things seem to be going, single word descriptors are the wave of the future. I'm not too concerned about it as in my opinion there are far too many "styles" as it is.
     
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