Imperial Hefeweizen

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  1. jzeilinger

    jzeilinger Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,847) Dec 4, 2004 Pennsylvania
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    Point taken. It's an interesting argument and I definitely see both sides.
     
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  2. jzeilinger

    jzeilinger Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,847) Dec 4, 2004 Pennsylvania
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    Point taken. It's an interesting argument and I can see both sides. I can't speak for Germany since I don't live there. If the beer laws change, it would be sad like the day when they put the lights up at Wrigley Field. Such a tradition. Then again, I don't live in Chicago either.

    (Sorry for the double post, I was "timed out" after 15 minutes - gotta love it. :angry:)
     
  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Dale, did you buy this?

    Cheers!
     
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  4. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Just as an FYI, the RHG has not had the force of law in Germany for several years now. Because of an EU court ruling (having to do with commerce, etc.), its status these days is much more akin to a truth in advertising law. The only time a brewer can be "punished" for not following the RHG is if they claim they are following the RHG guidelines but then don't.

    Much of what keeps the beers brewed under the RHG guidelines alive these days is that large numbers of German beer drinkers simply refuse to consider any thing not brewed following RHG guidelines as being real beer and worthy of consumption. While that may be changing, the real constraint on what gets brewed is not the RHG itself but rather popular taste and what folks are willing buy to drink.
     
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  5. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    No I didn't, I'm sure there's a good chance they'll still be there forever. They're on the bottom shelf at the back of the store where I bet no one ever looks. Maybe grab one for this weekend. Highly recommended?
     
  6. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I can't recommend this particular brand since I have never had it. I was hoping that you would provide me input here.:wink:

    Cheers!
     
  7. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Sounds like a Sunday beer then.
     
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  8. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Awesome!!

    Cheers to you!
     
  9. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Haven't had a full bottle to do a review on here, but based on the taster sample I've had I'd give get a bottle if I saw it that fresh. (Love to hear what you think on NBS.)
     
  10. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    For what it's worth, prompted by this thread I hunted down some Vitus and found some .5l bottles from September of last year -- they're holding up quite well. Wish I'd bought a few, don't hesitate with German beers 6 months old or less.
     
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  11. dripa8

    dripa8 Zealot (647) Sep 19, 2014 Kansas

    FWIW, I see that lagunitas just released a "bavarian styled doppel weizen" at 9% abv.
     
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  12. Uniobrew31

    Uniobrew31 Pooh-Bah (1,567) Jan 16, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    Weisen Bock is essentially imperial Hefe Weisen, right?
     
  13. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Apparently it depends on who you ask. ..
     
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  14. SkipZ

    SkipZ Initiate (0) Jul 3, 2015 Pennsylvania

    Another 'Murican bastardized category. The same people that want to "imperialize" and make every classic beer style taste like a sour patch kid or breakfast platter are probably the same ones that bitch that bombers are too big.
     
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  15. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    What does that even mean?
     
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  16. SkipZ

    SkipZ Initiate (0) Jul 3, 2015 Pennsylvania

    Well, since you don't understand English and grammar with a hint of sophistication and cynicism, I'll dumb it down a little.
    Everyone is so excited for high alcohol beer that tastes like sour candy, maple pancakes, fruit salad or the secret Starbucks menu, or are willing to carelessly slap the "imperial" term in big letters on a new bastardized and stylized "beer" for $23/4 pack. But then, these same people, scoff at the classic beer styles and traditions and endlessly bitch that the same beer they paid $23/4 pack is $17 in a bomber. The "imperial" term has become an invasive virus.
     
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  17. raynmoon

    raynmoon Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2011 Colorado

    Lagunitas just put their DoppelWeizen back in bombers for this Spring!
     
  18. RogelioRodriguez

    RogelioRodriguez Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2015 California

    The purity law might limit creation and experimentation. But if you discard the purity law, German beers that are commonly imported into the US still undergo bottle conditioning and mashing schedules that make corporate American bean counters cringe.

    The reality is there is more to adding adjunct and getting creative. You've got to work with proteins and Wheat requires a more conscious effort to avoid stuck sparge.
     
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  19. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Grand Pooh-Bah (3,732) Sep 15, 2014 Colorado
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    Why is anyone defending Reinheitsgebot?!? An ancient passe law that legally limits creativity and crushes innovation is nothing worth defending.
     
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  20. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Wow, you're a fucking asshole. Simply because I don't understand why your comment about bottle size and americanized styling has a place in a conversation about a centuries old German style doesn't give you the right to be a self righteous prick.
    Edit, I think your sophistcation and wit would be better shared with the wine community.
     
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