Improving my homebrewed IPAs...

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by RickSalut, Aug 26, 2019.

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  1. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
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    Mel did it good . . .


    . . . but it was popular back in black & white (Treasure of the Sierra Madre):
     
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  2. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    It was my only hoppy beer to medal, and my only gold ever. I entered it on a whim. That medal got me hooked, but I never did that well again. I brought it up as anecdotal evidence that good beer is good beer, regardless of the BA homebrew forum opinions, including my own. Ha!
     
  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    And right you are!

    Cheers!
     
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  4. Bburns87

    Bburns87 Zealot (690) Jun 11, 2013 Illinois

    Well to be honest, that is likely what is giving OP the flavors he doesn't enjoy. He wants a lighter color beer with less malt to it.
     
  5. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Which could be achieved using lighter colored crystal malt - I use 20L crystal when brewing my IPAs. Nixing all crystal malts (e.g., "Putting a cease and desist on using c malts") is an extreme measure unless you are a member of the crystal police.

    Cheers!
     
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  6. Bburns87

    Bburns87 Zealot (690) Jun 11, 2013 Illinois

    If it makes you feel better, I still use crystal in my stouts :stuck_out_tongue:
     
  7. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    Crystal malt is overutilized. This is carryover from the old days in the 1980s and 90s when complex malts like Munich and Vienna and anything else just weren't as widely available as they are today. Brewing a 1990s version of a Munich dunkel but can't find Munich malt? Hell, I'll just add a pound of Crystal 40, that's close enough. And people still do this today, whether subconsciously or totally unknowingly, or because an old recipe or brewshop owner told them to, or whatever.

    Crystal malt is an important part of the palette for any craftbrewer artiste. But it needn't be caked sky-high into every recipe either. Many bad beers are bad because people tend to think more is better. Sometimes more is not better. Sometimes, zero is better.
     
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  8. TheWorstBrewerEver

    TheWorstBrewerEver Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2016 Norway

    well, for me the beer got a lot better once I stopped aerating the wort after fermentation...
     
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  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    And sometimes judicious use of lighter colored crystal malt is 'better'.

    Cheers!
     
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  10. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    This is very often true. I can remember a time when almost every recipe included crystal malt. Old habits die hard.
     
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  11. loebrygg

    loebrygg Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2016 Norway

    Use crystal malt if there is a reason
    I like to use a blend of pale, 10% wheat and a touch of light color cara malt,
    but then again, depends on my goal
     
  12. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    We could have a more focused and productive discussion with a recipe and process from @RickSalut and more specific info on what he wants in an IPA and what is lacking in his. In absence of that info, there are assumptions, guesses, and opinions.
     
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  13. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Maven (1,374) May 2, 2006 Utah

    True, but then we might get distracted from discussing the evils of crystal malt.
     
  14. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    PS: @RickSalut Welcome to the homebrew forum.
    Trust, me that side discussion almost sucked me in. Especially the stinkin’ badges line!
     
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