Indiana Beer love

Discussion in 'Great Lakes' started by speedydd6, Feb 4, 2017.

  1. speedydd6

    speedydd6 Initiate (113) Nov 5, 2016 Indiana

    Wanted to start a thread for Indiana beers. Let's see the love.

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    Indiana City Brewing's Boom Juice and Double Udder
     
  2. darklord2011

    darklord2011 Aspirant (215) Nov 18, 2011 Indiana
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    My problem with some Indiana beers is the price. New breweries try to price their beer above more established brands. So I go to the store and consider a new beer and I can try a new Founders release for $12.99 or an Indiana beer for $14.99 or in the case of 18th St. $16.99. I find myself going with the established brand at a lower cost with the confidence I'll get a good brew. I'm thinking these new Indiana breweries should price their beer under established brands so they can develop a brand of their own then increase price incrementally as they grow.
     
  3. speedydd6

    speedydd6 Initiate (113) Nov 5, 2016 Indiana

    I agree. Pricing in some cases is high. I think a lot of the Indianapolis breweries do a better job of this than say 18th Street.
     
  4. ja1022

    ja1022 Initiate (158) Sep 27, 2009 Indiana

    You could dedicate a thread to all the shit breweries popping up around northwest Indiana too. Bad homebrew swill. Just sayin.
     
  5. JohnnyHopps

    JohnnyHopps Meyvn (1,289) Jun 15, 2010 Indiana
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    There could be a thread specifically for NWI breweries. I have considered starting one. With fff and 18th Street, a lot of NWI breweries go unnoticed. Four Fathers, Burn'em, New Oberpfalz, and sometimes Crown does some great stuff.
     
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  6. ja1022

    ja1022 Initiate (158) Sep 27, 2009 Indiana

    Thought about it and my previous post is pure trolling and not in the spirit of what the OP had in mind. So beyond the obvious 3F love, props to 18th Street. For me there was a time when their stuff was rivaling 3F but they seem to have slipped back some since the expansion to Hammond. Still good to great but not quite where they were maybe 12-18 months ago. I've also had stuff I like from Burn 'em, Four Fathers and New Oberpfalz.
     
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  7. ja1022

    ja1022 Initiate (158) Sep 27, 2009 Indiana

    Beat me to it..
     
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  8. JohnnyHopps

    JohnnyHopps Meyvn (1,289) Jun 15, 2010 Indiana
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    Great minds think alike.

    And so do ours.
     
  9. speedydd6

    speedydd6 Initiate (113) Nov 5, 2016 Indiana

    I think NW Indiana breweries get plenty of love here. I was hoping to see more talk about the likes of Taxman, Daredevil, Indiana City, Central State, Flat 12, Upland and other really solid Indiana brewers.
     
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  10. JohnnyHopps

    JohnnyHopps Meyvn (1,289) Jun 15, 2010 Indiana
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    Well then I guess you should've specified "Southern Indiana Beer Love". :D
     
  11. deboy922

    deboy922 Initiate (106) Jan 1, 2017 Indiana

    People's Brewing Company in Lafayette has a nice IPA called Mound Builder, and their seasonal IIPA, Space Cowboy, with galaxy hops is good on draft.
     
  12. speedydd6

    speedydd6 Initiate (113) Nov 5, 2016 Indiana

    Ok how about Central Indiana; Indianapolis not Southern Indiana.
     
  13. JohnnyHopps

    JohnnyHopps Meyvn (1,289) Jun 15, 2010 Indiana
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    I learned way back in middle school that anything south of US 30 is Southern Indiana. I still believe that to be factual. But enough geography, let's advocate for Indiana brewers.
     
  14. WilliMo

    WilliMo Initiate (116) Jan 24, 2016 Indiana
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    I couldn't agree more. The Tales From the Crypt situation is the definition of someone trying to generate hype based on price. Indiana city wants 50 bucks to just have the right to buy a few bombers? If you want one bomber of BA Double Uddercut you have to pay 50 bucks for a ticket plus 25 for a bomber. $75 to try a beer that has never been released from a brewery that doesn't have a long line of history in BA beers. Few places in the entire country could demand that price and get away with it. Indiana city isn't one of them, and not surprisingly they can't sell 140 tickets. Mimi's breakfast Stout costs more for a bomber than a four pack of Founders Breakfast Stout. It seems like they are trying to immediately price their way in to high end craft status. Don't get me wrong I'd love to support the local brewery but at these prices it's difficult to justify.
     
  15. TargaFlorio

    TargaFlorio Zealot (541) Jul 3, 2012 Indiana

    My thoughts exactly on Indiana City. I've only been there once and thought it was fine, but nothing special (Black Acre is much better, and just down the street). I enjoyed their taproom more than the beers themselves. (They weren't bad, just not really noteworthy).

    They describe and label their oatmeal stout as "Indy's premier stout" (when did that vote take place lol)? Also, someone from the brewery started a thread in this forum about one of their special releases and urging people to get their tickets early because of how quickly they expected them to sell out. The responses from some Indy folks weren't very kind. I don't remember seeing them post in here again.

    Ok, so on a positive Indiana beer note, I went to Daredevil Brewing for the first time yesterday. I've always enjoyed "Lift Off IPA" and "JWP Stout", but had just never been there. Fun visit. Had a nice flight of beers and a full pour of JWP. Also picked up a crowler of their DIPA, "Rip Cord", for the game tomorrow. Good stuff.
     
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  16. darklord2011

    darklord2011 Aspirant (215) Nov 18, 2011 Indiana
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    Wow hadn't heard the Indiana City story. That's absurd.

    Sounds like they're just trying to take advantage of the craft beer craze and think people are suckers for anything that's limited release and barrel aged.

    I'll continue to visit breweries like Indiana City and try their beer and enjoy the brewery experience but I'm also going to continue to scrutinize lndiana beer in stores until they get real with their prices.
     
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  17. speedydd6

    speedydd6 Initiate (113) Nov 5, 2016 Indiana

    Not a great endorsement for your middle school geography teacher
     
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  18. speedydd6

    speedydd6 Initiate (113) Nov 5, 2016 Indiana

    I understand and completely agree with previous complaints about pricing. Bomber prices are way to high that goes for Indiana City and 18th Street.

    But I do want to say that I am a big fan of Indiana City's Cratchit Ale and Beast of Laureys. They have both been available at my local taphouse and I enjoyed them.
     
  19. JohnnyHopps

    JohnnyHopps Meyvn (1,289) Jun 15, 2010 Indiana
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    Breweries with small followings are destined to fail at ticketed events. A few NWI breweries have tried this (Devil's Trumpet comes to mind) and I have fallen on their face. One must remember but even the first Dark Lord Day was not a ticketed event. And fff was the only show in town at that time. Now there are way too many shows competing for the same dollar without being very good.
     
  20. carlso_aw

    carlso_aw Aspirant (229) Jan 10, 2016 Indiana
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    I'm glad someone else brought up the Indiana City thing. I'd love to try those beers, and have even looked for someone to split the cost with, but I just can't justify a $50 ticket for beers when no one can even tell me if they're good or not.
     
  21. eifster82

    eifster82 Devotee (485) Apr 19, 2015 Illinois
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    Deviate Brewing is my second favorite Indiana brewery after FFF. Small little taproom, but packed with quality brews.
     
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  22. speedydd6

    speedydd6 Initiate (113) Nov 5, 2016 Indiana

    Could we consumers be the problem as well? Most of said ticket events revolve around barrel aged beers. There is just too much hype around those beers. Plus those events usually sell out, so why wouldn't they do it?
     
  23. darklord2011

    darklord2011 Aspirant (215) Nov 18, 2011 Indiana
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    While I complain about the pricing of some of the Indiana beer I do want to give some props and feedback on a few beers I've had lately.

    18th st. - Cone Crusher. Very Good.
    18th st. - Sex and Candy. Pretty Good.
    18th st. - Steel Hands. Not Good.
    Sun King - Lupulin. Pretty Good.
    FFF - Space Station Middle Finger. Pretty Good.
     
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  24. Jason1221

    Jason1221 Aspirant (213) Apr 7, 2015 Illinois
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    So...I'm heading to Indy this week for business. I have to ask, any good bottle shop (or brewery) reco's from the path of central Illinois to Indy? Last year, on a family vacation weekend, I stopped by Crown Liquors downtown and thought that was a nice place. Any other good reco's from the Indiana fans? Happy to trade info if you head the Chicago (or Central Illinois) way :) Feel free to message me if you want to trade a few 'hot' spots!
     
  25. JohnnyHopps

    JohnnyHopps Meyvn (1,289) Jun 15, 2010 Indiana
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    I really want to like Sun King more, but everything I have ever liked from them is not distributed. If Sunlight and Wee Mac disappeared permanently, it would clear some needed shelf space. Their King's reserve stuff is so good. It was also nice when GFJ started receiving distribution.
     
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  26. speedydd6

    speedydd6 Initiate (113) Nov 5, 2016 Indiana

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    One of my absolute favorites.
     
  27. darklord2011

    darklord2011 Aspirant (215) Nov 18, 2011 Indiana
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    The only TaxMan I've had is Death and Taxes. That's a solid brew. Had a buddy that went to the festival last summer. Heard it's pretty cool. Want to try to check it out this summer.
     
  28. darklord2011

    darklord2011 Aspirant (215) Nov 18, 2011 Indiana
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    Will you be downtown or on another side of the city?
     
  29. Jason1221

    Jason1221 Aspirant (213) Apr 7, 2015 Illinois
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    We'll be near downtown, but I'll have a car and lots of time when heading home on Friday.
     
  30. darklord2011

    darklord2011 Aspirant (215) Nov 18, 2011 Indiana
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    Your main liquor store chains are Crown, Payless, 21st Ammendment, and Big Red. Each has a pretty good selection and I think each has a location downtown or near downtown. There is also a popular store called Kahn's that has a great selection and about 15 min directly north of downtown. If you decide to venture to Kahn's there is also a nice store about another 15 min north in a town called Carmel. The store is Vine & Table. They have a great selection too.
     
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  31. weirdbeer

    weirdbeer Initiate (138) Dec 9, 2007 Indiana

    HopCat in Indy had a Taxman takeover with almost 30 beers last Friday. While I would wager that not all are available, I would think they would be plenty to try.
     
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  32. ja1022

    ja1022 Initiate (158) Sep 27, 2009 Indiana

    So much for Indiana beer love. 55 pages of Chicagoland NE Style IPAs but crickets here.
     
  33. cetherid

    cetherid Devotee (405) Aug 23, 2010 Indiana
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    FFF, New Oberpfalz and Four Fathers are the only breweries I need from NWI (and honestly from all of Indiana)
     
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  34. JohnnyHopps

    JohnnyHopps Meyvn (1,289) Jun 15, 2010 Indiana
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    Do we have enough pages to list all of the bad breweries in Indiana?
     
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  35. TheodorHerzl

    TheodorHerzl Zealot (513) Mar 30, 2007 Indiana
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    We have a shockingly high amount of terrible beer in Indiana, but we do have some great beer. FFF (obviously) Black Acre, Deviate, Daredevil, Central State, and Mashcraft. Those are my personal favorites.

    I'm amazed that several places around Indianapolis are still open. I've never had a good beer from several downtown breweries. It makes Indiana beer as a whole look terrible. You can open a place with shitty beer and somehow make it right now.
     
  36. DrippingI

    DrippingI Aspirant (204) Apr 12, 2012 Indiana
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    Man, I tried 3 or 4 of New Oberpfalz beers that they bottled and all of them were either 'meh' or a drain pour. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt since those were probably the first time bottling. But, still, it wasn't anything salvageable.
     
  37. JohnnyHopps

    JohnnyHopps Meyvn (1,289) Jun 15, 2010 Indiana
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    Same goes for NWI. There is one brewery in NWI (that I have mentioned in other threads) that literally has no idea what it is doing. Purposely making malt forward IPAs, I'd rather cellar a 90 minute IPA for a year.
     
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  38. JohnnyHopps

    JohnnyHopps Meyvn (1,289) Jun 15, 2010 Indiana
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    I'd be curious to find out what you had and when you had them. They are a different kind of brewery since they don't focus on IPAs and am told they will never get into barrel aging. But I think the styles they do are well done for the most part.
     
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  39. DrippingI

    DrippingI Aspirant (204) Apr 12, 2012 Indiana
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    I had their RIS, Elucidator, Imperial Rye IPA, and I think the Toad Storm. The RIS was probably the best out of the bunch, but it was still just meh. I bought all of them right when they popped up in Indy, so about a year or so ago.
     
  40. JohnnyHopps

    JohnnyHopps Meyvn (1,289) Jun 15, 2010 Indiana
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    Elucidator wasn't terribly impressive to me either (and I'm a pretty big dopplebock guy). At least on tap, I like the others. Perhaps its a matter of freshness.
     
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