Infected Beers

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Graviz, Mar 22, 2012.

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  1. BeRanger

    BeRanger Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2011 Michigan

    Well, obviously you shake a magic 8-ball and it tells you :slight_smile:
     
  2. BeRanger

    BeRanger Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2011 Michigan

    I'm not even entirely sure what the infection ratio is but the guy I got it from had a whole case and said he hasnt had an infected one yet. I normally would think this would be a standard used car salesman pitch pre-trade however he did tell a few other people the same thing just in conversation and not around me... So I feel like that increases my chances a little.
     
  3. alexost

    alexost Initiate (0) Dec 28, 2011 Florida

    I had a infected Saint Somewhere. Tasted like rubbing alcohol.
     
  4. Derranged

    Derranged Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2010 New York

    I had an infected Allagash Triple. It was a complete booze bomb, tasted like a triple loaded with cheap vodka.
     
  5. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2010 California

    Infected beers can be identified by smell and taste (a stout that is sour and funky). You can also get some visual cues with the level of carbonation and the head when you pour it.
     
  6. cbeer88

    cbeer88 Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2007 Massachusetts

    There are all sorts of infections. Sour is one, but hardly the only. Here's a pretty good intro read:
    http://www.howtobrew.com/section4/chapter21-2.html

    Some are true "infections", others are just "mistakes".

    Honestly, the easiest way to try them is through homebrewing. Odds are you'll F up enough batches to start to get a feel for common beer problems. That's mostly how I've learned. Commercial infections are rather rare, and generally notorious when they happen.
     
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  7. TenHornsProud

    TenHornsProud Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2010 Colorado

    The infected beer will taste off, like, clearly not taste/smell correct. You will know. Sometimes the infected beer will have more of a brett character and other times it will just be off. Gushers are a clear sign that something is going on.
     
  8. Tashbrew

    Tashbrew Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2007 California

    Lactic character is the most common offender. Think of your favorite beer spiked with sour milk. Pediococus tends to leave a very nasty Diacetyl behind that is like rancid butter. There are many other bugs that can spoil beer, cause gushing, or even burst bottles. I judged many commercial beer competitions and you run into all sorts things.

    Sort of on the same topic is oxidized beer. This is more common and can stem from oxygen uptake during filtration, or poor packaging during bottling or canning. It's like licking a cardboard box.
     
  9. Graviz

    Graviz Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2012 Colorado

    Has anyone reached out to deschutes on the abyss 09?
     
  10. FosterJM

    FosterJM Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2009 California

    Ive had a few infected beers. Charleywine from Mammoth comes to mind. It was an old ale that went sour. I had an infected moo-hoo that was infected and that one was thin and pure alcohol. Each beer is different.

    Cheers!
     
  11. 2378GCGTG

    2378GCGTG Initiate (0) Dec 7, 2011 Texas

    A ton of people did when the batch first came out, I know they did some refunds, my buddy got a voucher to basically buy 2 2010s for his 2 09s all he did was mail the receipt... and he was able to keep the 1 09 he hadn't opened, though sadly it was also infected.
     
  12. baybassboy

    baybassboy Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2011 California

    Ya... I got one sitting in my fridge. Mammoth actually owned the mistake, and labeled them with upside-down labels and sold them as Charleywine Sour. How bad was/is it?
     
  13. FosterJM

    FosterJM Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2009 California

    I enjoyed it actually. Had it at a tasting and me and UCLABrewN84 reviewed it. Pretty close in thought.
    http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/4051/77681
     
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  14. TWStandley

    TWStandley Pooh-Bah (2,166) Jan 15, 2008 Massachusetts
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    I am happy to trade you an infected Chocolate Ale if you want to send me an non-infected beer in return! No better way to learn what an infected beer tastes like than by trying one yourself. 2 King Henry's should be able to pry that one away from me.
     
  15. Grohnke

    Grohnke Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2009 Illinois

    I was at the sour bitch release, and Laffler was there drinking with everyone. He opened up a Matilda, and knew it was infected as soon as he opened it. Drian poured right in front of me saying "I dont want my name assosciated with this". 1) It was hilarious, and 2) I swear he didnt even smell it after he opened it, it was as if the burst of co2 from the initial open was enough for him, I was stunned.
     
  16. huskermike12

    huskermike12 Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2011 Vermont

    Was the '09 KtG infected or did they brew it with sauerkraut? :slight_smile:
     
  17. fortsambo

    fortsambo Initiate (0) Feb 14, 2011 Colorado

    Completely off topic but your avatar is awesome!
     
  18. baybassboy

    baybassboy Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2011 California

    very cool. I actually discussed this beer with a MBC employee when I was up there a few weeks ago. He admitted that it was indeed a mistake, albeit not a tragic one. They debated whether to dump the batch, bottle it, or bottle it with a "different" label. Obviously, they chose option 3 and released it as the "Sour" version.
     
  19. FosterJM

    FosterJM Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2009 California

    I think they made the right choice. It was a fairly tasty beer. I would like to try the actual old ale. Should be a good beer.

    Cheers!
     
  20. baybassboy

    baybassboy Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2011 California

    i really liked it. a touch thin, but a great offerring from MBC
     
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