Ingredient Preference Help

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by OakGuy, Feb 4, 2019.

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  1. OakGuy

    OakGuy Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2019 California

    I am looking for beers that fulfill the following criteria: Only ingredients are:
    Barley (no extracts)
    Water
    Yeast
    Hops (no extracts)

    No: colorings, flavors, etc.

    I thought this would be easy however it has come to my attention that the ingredient statement laws are loosey goosey in the USA when it comes to beers. I'd focus on Canadian or Euro beers as I believe they require proper ingredient statements but I can't find confirmation that they apply those rules to product meant for consumption in the USA.

    Not looking for any guidance as to why this doesn't matter to some (respectfully - I don't care), or that beers that use caramel color, maltoferm, hop extracts, corn syrup, etc taste great (I am sure they do), or that the additives in question are perfectly healthy (I already concede that for my own personal concerns).

    I am just exhausted from doing web searches on beers and beer companies trying to find beers where the company explicitly states on the label (but a solid website statement would suffice) that they are fulfilling this criteria that I seek for my own personal reasons. So far I think I can count on Sierra Nevada and Gordon Biersch but would appreciate other leads.

    Looking for Maiboch styles, stouts, low hopped amber ales in particular but open to other styles as well. Thanks in advance for any useful leads
     
  2. larryi86

    larryi86 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,118) Apr 4, 2010 Delaware
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    Sounds like you are looking for beers that fit into Reinheursgebot, the old German Putity Law, and from my understanding a lot of traditional German beers should meet these requirements.

    I know it will be hard to tell if breweries are using malt extracts instead of barely, but I feel you have a better chance with smaller craft breweries of having an all malt base with no extracts. Checking some breweries websites might help, some breweries are actually pretty open about what goes into their beers even though it’s not on the label.
     
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  3. surfcaster

    surfcaster Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2013 North Carolina
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    Where are you? That will help others give you recommendations.

    Here in NC we have OMB as a completely 100% authentic German style brewer and as authentic as it gets. Bottle most everything they sell.
     
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  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    You can go to this AB InBev website; they list the ingredients of their beers.

    https://www.tapintoyourbeer.com/index.cfm

    The first beer that comes up is Becks which lo and behold has the following ingredient list: “Ingredients: Water; Barley Malt; Hops.”

    Yeast is not explicitly listed but needless to say without it beer does not ‘happen’.

    Cheers!
     
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  5. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Welcome to the BA site, OakGuy. You've joined a site that can be very helpful to answer posts like yours. However, all of us are in the same boat with you and do not have the benefit of seeing a list of ingredients, so it is not any easier to compile a list of beers that fit your requirements than it is for you to do so.

    I can generalize and say what was said in the post above that craft breweries are likely where you will find these beers. You can look at a beer's label and determine if flavorings such as fruit, coffee, chocolate, etc. have been added, and you can also eliminate certain beer styles that traditionally are brewed with some wheat, rye, etc. I'm going to guess that 80% of the remaining beers that aren't excluded above will fit your criteria, but it will be difficult to determine in the remaining 20% that might use malt or hop extract.

    Some BA members might be aware of beers that 100% fit your cruteria, but to avoid you compiling a list of these beers, some of which you would be unable to easily acquire because of limited geographical distro, I suggest that you update your personal profile info to include your state so that local beers can be recommended to you by members in your state/region.
     
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  6. OakGuy

    OakGuy Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2019 California

    Im in southern california, and would appreciate any tips based on that. And I'll share if I find any as well.
     
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  7. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    I would think most beer fits into your parameters. But, your parameters also rule out Wheat and Rye beers.
     
  8. OakGuy

    OakGuy Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2019 California

    Actually Id like to try beers that swap out the barley for other quality grains but I thought I'd start with barley as that is my usual preference.
     
  9. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    The recommendations for German beers might be leading you off track. Reinheitsgebot regulations will allow things like hop extract.
     
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  10. MerryTapster

    MerryTapster Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2010 Pennsylvania

    Anything by Schneider Weiss or Weinstephaner are go too for me as far as being reihehietsgabibble certified
     
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  11. OakGuy

    OakGuy Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2019 California

    Yes they do, and they also allow for sugar in ales, and a coloring agent made from beer concentrate if I read a pretty extensive document correctly. And that is why I did not cite Reinheitzgebot directly. But it could be a starting point if I can find manufacturers that will confirm their use or lack of use of those things.
     
  12. OakGuy

    OakGuy Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2019 California

    Those look good. Websites give good indication of no hop extracts. Thanks
     
  13. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    I think your best bet would be to swing into local breweries and put your premise to the bartender on duty. my experience is that many (most?) small US brewers are meeting your standards, at least in their more basic styles. You might excluded from trying some of their more experimental offerings but I would think most of their ambers, pales, browns, IPAs, porters/stouts, would be fine by your guidelines
     
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  14. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    Hey OakGuy, welcome to BA. If I lived in SoCal I believe I'd attend a BrewFest and ask the brewers themselves.
     
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  15. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Beer is, by definition, made from malt extract.
     
  16. OakGuy

    OakGuy Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2019 California

    Fine. But in case its not clear, my reference to "malt extract" was indicative of preprepared, usually highly concentrated material rather than what is technically a "malt extract" that one obtains when one grinds one's own barley and extracts it in water for immediate preparation of wort. My own view is that the use of the word "beer" allows for the use of a "malt extract" derived by either method. My interest is only in beers that use the latter method. With no offense meant to those beers that rely on the former, of course.
     
  17. JrGtr

    JrGtr Pooh-Bah (1,775) Apr 13, 2006 Massachusetts
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    Most craft breweries use malt - there are a very few that will use malt extract, but they are far between. It comes to cost - a one-time cost of a mill and mash tun, and being able to buy whole grain, versus buying extract for every batch, which is much more expensive.
    Hop extracts are more common, but still not really widespread, except in some cases for duper hoppy beers.
    Very very few, if any, craft brewers use colorants other than roasted or highly kilned barleys (or wheat, etc)
    Flavorings are where things get a bit trickier, with the proliferation of fruited IPAs and such (grapefruit, mango, etc) Those will normally be right on the label, if not part of the name itself.
    Then there are vanilla, chocolate, bourbon aging, and so on.
    If you have questions, most breweries are happy to answer questions.

    IN short, you shouldn't have any problems finding beers that are just those 4 ingredients.
     
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  18. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    A few smaller places don't have mills, but order precrushed bags of grain from the suppliers.
     
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  19. OakGuy

    OakGuy Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2019 California

    Great, I'll take it ok. If they fit the remaining criteria please let me know Id like to check them out. Thanks
     
  20. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    I'm not familiar with all of the CA breweries. The ones I was talking about are ~1000 bbl or less in MI.

    The post was to say there are small Breweries that don't own a mill that still mash the grist.
     
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