Inherent Flaw In Session IPA's

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  1. bfitzge2

    bfitzge2 Initiate (0) Jul 21, 2010 Massachusetts
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    I doubt I am breaking new ground here, but there seems to be a surprisingly consistent lack of flavor with session IPA's, a watery taste on the back of the tongue seems to be how they all finish. Just wondering if others agree, and if there is some obvious limitation in the style that causes this. I am a neophyte in terms of actual brewing, but I would assume it has to due with the lack of a malt base required to keep the abv down?

    I know 'session' is at its core a marketing term anyway, but I don't run into this with the many pale ales I enjoy.
     
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  2. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    There are more misses than hits for me as well. The ones that miss, have a watery, bitter, metallic finish. The hits are juicy fruity hopped goodness and surprisingly flavorful and light at the same time. Overall I'm typically skeptical of new session IPAs.
     
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  3. mudbug

    mudbug Pooh-Bah (1,762) Mar 27, 2009 Oregon
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    Agree, I haven't had one yet that made me glad I had it rather than a full strength IPA. That said I've also never had a proper English session cask ale either.
     
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  4. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    US brewers seen to lack the skill of brewing low abv beers that excel in taste when you compare them to what the UK can and does put out. For the most part...
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  5. Greywulfken

    Greywulfken Grand Pooh-Bah (5,815) Aug 25, 2010 New York
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    The abv is low so you can drink a lot of them. I'm not a volume drinker.
     
  6. EnronCFO

    EnronCFO Pooh-Bah (2,193) Mar 29, 2007 Massachusetts
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    I've basically stopped buying them at stores. On draft I've enjoyed Founders, Firestone Walker, and Stones offerings, but unless the beers are very fresh at the store it isn't worth it to me. The exception is Left of the Dial from Notch. Not surprising that the brewery that specializes in session beers makes the most consistent session IPA, in cans or on draft.
     
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  7. EnronCFO

    EnronCFO Pooh-Bah (2,193) Mar 29, 2007 Massachusetts
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    Agreed. I feel like most session IPAs start with a base IPA and then start removing components until the ABV reaches a desired level. The better approach is to create a new beer altogether that tastes good on it's own merits.
     
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  8. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I agree. There's a brew pub close to here that specializes in English brew styles and what this guy can do with a Mild or Bitter is astounding, and under 4% as well. Session Ipas imo kinda suck, a one trick pony of hops and no malt to lower the Abv but they defeat their own purpose. I can't imagine drinking more than one due to palate fatigue.
     
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  9. PatrickCT

    PatrickCT Grand Pooh-Bah (3,776) Feb 18, 2015 Connecticut

    The inherent problem is trying to make IPAs something they are not. Could you imagine a session quad?
     
  10. champ103

    champ103 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,296) Sep 3, 2007 Texas
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    The American "session IPA" is the same as Pale Ale to me. There are good and bad pale ales just like every other style.
     
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  11. RBassSFHOPit2ME

    RBassSFHOPit2ME Initiate (0) Mar 1, 2009 California

    SN Hop Hunter, especially when found uber fresh I consider my new go to "session" IPA. As with other SN hoppy offerings, it holds up better with months in the bottle than most.

    Drake's Alpha Session is awesome.
    Stone's Go To is nothing to complain about
    Easy Jack ain't too shabby
    Russian River Dribble Belt is phenomenal
    Daytime IPA works in the hot hot California sun

    There's a time and a place for these beers I'd say. Hello sports tailgating hours before the event and floating down the river!
     
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  12. cookiequiz

    cookiequiz Savant (1,119) Apr 15, 2013 California

    Not a volume drinker? I've seen your Space Dust posts.
     
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  13. Greywulfken

    Greywulfken Grand Pooh-Bah (5,815) Aug 25, 2010 New York
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    lol :stuck_out_tongue: *busted*
     
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  14. eb1610

    eb1610 Savant (1,227) Jan 3, 2014 Massachusetts
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    You need to get your hands on Carton Boat Beer and Tree House Eureka
     
  15. peteboiler

    peteboiler Zealot (690) Dec 16, 2010 Florida

    I have yet to find one I really enjoy. The only one I have had that I can drink is the Founders All-Day, but even that is not amazing. I assume, however, that is how it is supposed to be. I would rather get a good buzz with a few good quality IPA's, than to drink 10 sessions. But I guess they serve their purpose.
     
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  16. hillind

    hillind Savant (1,007) Apr 24, 2010 Pennsylvania

    There are ones that I'll enjoy one or two of...Go To and Pinner come to mind. I never want more than that though, which defeats the purpose of the style in my mind. Much rather have a well rounded APA or a crisp pils for a lower ABV option instead.
     
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  17. gatheredwaters

    gatheredwaters Pooh-Bah (1,807) May 1, 2014 Vermont
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    Don't you mean... *dusted*? :wink::stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  18. RobinLee

    RobinLee Maven (1,423) Feb 15, 2012 Wisconsin

    I like All Day and Day Time enough, but most times Spotted Cow or Little Yella Pils will do the trick. And SC's coming out in cans soon!
     
  19. Greywulfken

    Greywulfken Grand Pooh-Bah (5,815) Aug 25, 2010 New York
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    Oh, snap! :grimacing: :stuck_out_tongue: :grinning:
     
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  20. Relik

    Relik Zealot (603) Apr 20, 2011 Canada (NS)

    Low ABV ≠ Lack of flavor.
    Low ABV ≠ Lack of Malt or Hops.
    Yes some "session ipa" have less body or feels watery.
    I think its a newish concept for a lot of North American brewers who were on the path of bigger badder bolder and now need to learn how to drop the bigger and aim for less.
    Myself i seem to be more drawn towards the lower ABV these days. Rather crush a few (+6)and not feel it.
     
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