Interesting hop combinations

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  1. Hoppsbabo

    Hoppsbabo Pooh-Bah (2,053) Jan 29, 2012 England
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    Yo dudes. Based on an old thread, I'd be grateful if you'd share your favourite hop combinations.

    Also, I'm new to this homebrewing game. Is there a lore to combining varieties or can you not really go wrong? I have some left over amarillo and home grown Fuggles I'd like to combine in an imperial stout. Would that be weird?
    Ta.
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I don't know that there are really any wrong/bad combinations, but some are better than others, depending on what you want your beer to smell and taste like.

    I have used Amarillo and Fuggles together, in a sort of English/American Pale Ale hybrid. It worked well I think. In an Imperial Stout? I dunno. Maybe. First, ask yourself if you really want your Imperial Stout to be a hop forward beer. If not, I would eliminate Amarillo or any of the more aggressive American/Southern Hemisphere hops.

    ETA: Meant to mention... Kate the Great, which some might say was the best RIS ever, used 6 or 7 (roughly) different hops. But essentially the same beer could have been made with one or two, IMO. Given the other characteristics of the beer, and the (typical) time between brewing and drinking, there's not a whole lot of hop character left.
     
  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    It is a bit premature to state “favorite” but I recently brewed my version of a Weldworks Juicy Bits IPA where I used equal amounts of Citra, Mosaic and El,Dorado at both end of boil (and hop-stand) and dry hopping. The beer is only a couple of weeks in the bottle (and still young IMO) but I am really digging this combo. I will have a more mature feeling about this beer in another couple of weeks but I feel comfortable at this stage to recommend this combo.

    Cheers!
     
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  4. Hoppsbabo

    Hoppsbabo Pooh-Bah (2,053) Jan 29, 2012 England
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    It's like when you start cooking Indian or Mexican, at first you just want to throw as much flavour in a possible and play with the spices.
     
  5. Hoppsbabo

    Hoppsbabo Pooh-Bah (2,053) Jan 29, 2012 England
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    Cool. Keep us posted!
     
  6. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I understand that desire, and have seen it in countless new brewers. But I believe the guys (and gals) that stick with it tend to be the ones that start simple, learn the ropes, and go from there. As musicians sometimes say, "learn the rules before you break them."
     
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  7. Hoppsbabo

    Hoppsbabo Pooh-Bah (2,053) Jan 29, 2012 England
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    True. I actually intended to brew two impy stouts, one British style and one American but I only got round to the British one. I ended up using the amarillo in a kernel clone instead. Amarillo is insane, I love it.
     
  8. Hoppsbabo

    Hoppsbabo Pooh-Bah (2,053) Jan 29, 2012 England
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    I'm also keen to experiment with nz/aus hops, if anyone has some recommendations.
     
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  9. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    UK hop twist :slight_smile: (actually German/American/New Zealand): HM (Huell Melon), Sterling, Nelson (Sauvin)
     
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  10. Hanglow

    Hanglow Pooh-Bah (2,051) Feb 18, 2012 Scotland
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    NZ hops are great imo, you can't really go wrong with them

    One thing that's quite interesting to do if you get into it is to try the same hop but grown in different countries, as they tend to be fairly different despite being genetically identical. You can for example get US, UK, NZ and slovenian grown cascade.
     
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  11. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    Cascade and centennial. Citra and/or centennial/cascade. Citra with any other fruity American hop.
     
  12. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    +1 to Prep, to add,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, columbus cascade chinook centenial with a dry hop kicker of citra and more centenial
     
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  13. NorCalKid

    NorCalKid Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2018 California

    Citra, Citra, Citra, and in combo with others. But I’m one of those weird, “hop heads”.
     
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  14. wasatchback

    wasatchback Pooh-Bah (1,574) Jan 12, 2014 Tajikistan
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    Galaxy and..... we’ll anything cause Galaxy on it’s own is insane

    Nelson/Motueka/Kohatu

    El Dorado, Enigma, Vic Secret

    Mosaic, Strata, Nugget

    Idaho 7, Citra, Bravo

    I would recommend Instead of splitting equal additions at each opportunity use one Hop at different spots. Columbus in the boil, Mosaic in WP, Citra in DH... or if you are going to blend favor one hop significantly at each addition.
     
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  15. Dave_S

    Dave_S Crusader (429) May 18, 2017 England

    Yeah, and similarly to cooking you generally get much better results once you start to simplify a bit and build up recipes where you understand more about what each ingredient is doing and how they'll work together.

    For hop combinations, I'm not an expert but feel like I've got to level one quite comfortably using two tactics:
    i) See what sort of combinations of hops your favourite breweries use for different styles and use those as a starting point.
    ii) Look up descriptions of hops - homebrew shops, hop merchants and hop-growers associations can all have quite good online info - and see whether you think the sort of flavours they describe will give you what you're after.
    There's more subtlety to it than that, but combining those approaches should enable you to get pretty decent results.
     
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  16. chavinparty

    chavinparty Zealot (653) Jan 4, 2015 New Hampshire

    Mosaic
    El Dorado
    Citra
    Motueka
    Azacca

    Azacca Denali? I’ll let you know next week

    Also Topaz is a really cool hop but I haven’t seen it in awhile
     
  17. Hoppsbabo

    Hoppsbabo Pooh-Bah (2,053) Jan 29, 2012 England
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    Yikes, that's quite a hop bill.

    Anyone had experience with African Queen?
    'Originally known as experimental variety J17/63. African Queen is a high-alpha hop from South Africa and is especially suited to brewing IPAs. Its typical flavours are citrus, stone fruits and blackcurrant.'
     
  18. Fermented-nate

    Fermented-nate Zealot (649) Sep 15, 2013 California
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    I have used a combo of equal parts Amarillo and Simcoe in a few dark beers (but not an imperial stout) and its awesome.
     
  19. Hoppsbabo

    Hoppsbabo Pooh-Bah (2,053) Jan 29, 2012 England
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    What qualities does simcoe add?
     
  20. Fermented-nate

    Fermented-nate Zealot (649) Sep 15, 2013 California
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    To me, Simcoe has a unique woodsy/tropical fruit/pine aroma that goes nicely with dark or roast malt.
     
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