Introducing Jester King 2016 SPON — Méthode Gueuze

Discussion in 'Southwest' started by thirdeye11, Oct 18, 2016.

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  1. GizmoAtX

    GizmoAtX Initiate (0) Jan 29, 2014 Texas

    I agree 100% being local to is great to see being rewarded for being there every weekend but I dont know whats their take on this is. It would be nice to see their opinion on it. Plan B -> onsite consumption only, no chaos.
     
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  2. Trelvis

    Trelvis Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2015 Texas

    I get how locals want certain things but don't act like people from Dallas and Houston aren't there alot either. Maybe not every single weekend as some locals claim, which I dont really believe, but I know plenty of people who are making trips two-three times a month. Anyway, there is no solution that will make everyone happy. I say start a membership club, but I know thats not happening either.
     
  3. greenspointexas

    greenspointexas Pooh-Bah (2,075) Jan 16, 2011 Texas
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    I want it more so i only want a release that benefits me
     
  4. Maich

    Maich Initiate (0) Oct 23, 2014 Texas

    Lottery system with a few weeks notice cash only purchase of bottles to speed things up
     
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  5. Will_in_TX

    Will_in_TX Initiate (0) Jan 15, 2014 Texas

    Haven't seen it mentioned in the thread, so I apologize if this is a duplicate.

    The four blends are supposedly:

    Gueze, Peach & Apricot, Flor, Cherry & Raspberry.
     
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  6. Ajenkins626

    Ajenkins626 Devotee (388) Jun 14, 2014 Texas
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    How about a points system like belly card. After the initial release, allocate some to to be purchased after a number of points are obtained. This could be a shout out to locals who make it out there a few times a month.
     
  7. GreatStoutman

    GreatStoutman Maven (1,486) Jan 5, 2016 Texas
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    I say sell it all and let the accountants sort it out...
     
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  8. LilBeezy

    LilBeezy Initiate (0) Jan 30, 2013 Texas

    If I'm not mistaken didn't Freetail ssilent releases only to find out that instead of the beer being more available a small group of locals simply hoarded more of it? I know they had a blog post detailing why they quit silent releases but I can't seem to find it.

    There is never going to be a way to release a beer this hyped and keep everyone happy. I think they should just stay consistent with how they've released every other beer this year. Sell X% of the total bottles at 4PM on 11/18 and keep the rest to be sold on site for the following year. If you want bottles to take home get there early if not come back the next weekend when they have on-site bottles available.
     
  9. cura

    cura Initiate (0) Oct 19, 2016 Texas

    I def agree, I only suggested random silent releases as an alternative to lottery, since the discussion seems to be based around JK's desire to keep this beer year round. A standard release, even staggered, would be pretty painless with that count. You're always going to struggle to find the middle ground between the apocalypse that is a month in advance release and a random lottery system, I get that.

    I think JK's current formula hits that middle ground pretty well. Like I said, Atrial was pretty brutal this year, but everything else has been great, pretty readily available, and has stuck around for people coming in from Houston/Dallas etc. All except for Fen Tao, which was gone Fri. It will be an interesting experiment whatever they end up doing, and if it doesn't work I'm sure they'll adjust it appropriately for the next year.

    Other posters are right too, everyone has their biases ofc, locals and out of staters definitely prefer different systems, and I know I wish breweries in other states would devise systems that made their limited releases more accessible to me, but I understand why that's not the case and Texas has a lot of great beer. I'm sure JK will navigate this as best they can like always.
     
  10. blastoderm55

    blastoderm55 Pundit (879) Jun 7, 2013 Texas

    But we hate sorting it out.
     
  11. donspublic

    donspublic Grand Pooh-Bah (3,552) Aug 4, 2014 Texas
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    Bingo prizes, I will bring the women that win every friggin game at whole foods with me and rack up
     
  12. WolfBrewer

    WolfBrewer Initiate (0) Mar 23, 2015 Texas

    As far as I understand it, these four blends are specific to Méthode Gueuze. It would have been too much volume for one packaging run, so was done in succession last winter.
    The fruited stuff (releases) will be separate from these four Méthode Gueuze blends.

    Yeah?
     
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  13. icetrauma

    icetrauma Pooh-Bah (1,657) Sep 7, 2004 Texas
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    Do the Blue Bell Method....drink all you can and sell the rest.
     
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  14. tjmodica

    tjmodica Pundit (824) Oct 2, 2007 Texas
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    Turn all the bottles over to the hoarders on even years and keep all the bottles for on site consuption on odd years, Wait 4 years and see what method works best.
     
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  15. jwall

    jwall Initiate (0) Oct 21, 2008 Texas

    Minus the listeria outbreak.
     
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  16. Abbbp

    Abbbp Pooh-Bah (1,762) Mar 9, 2013 Texas
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    Sell the 7000 500ml at first come first serve starting Friday. No way that many sell out in one day. But the remaining'll be gone by Saturday, I guarantee it. Keep the remaining 4000 375ml for on-site only- that's about 75 bottles a weekend, and sell em at like $40-$50 a piece, that'll make em last all year- hell honestly, at that price, they might even last longer.
     
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  17. kbenson

    kbenson Zealot (711) Aug 15, 2012 Colorado

    Lottery worked fine for Zwanze day and is the only way to minimize usage of mules. It seems obvious to me that, despite not being perfect (no system is), this is the most equitable way of distributing the beer to as many legitimate "local" fans of JK as possible, without the lion's share of the beer going to the traders who will ship it out of state in exchange for other whalez.

    Any type of system that requires waiting in line will encourage use of mules. Everyone who has one will at least bring their significant other if at all possible and effectively double their allocation (meaning someone else will get shut out). Locals in particular could drag their non-enthusiast friends along and increase their allocations by multiples. I'm sure mules can be used for lotteries, but I bet there would be far fewer of them. Yes, you and your significant other can both enter the lottery, but maybe only one of you will win meaning some other "household" gets a crack at a few bottles. And I'm sure there are other ways to game the system using bots and aliases, etc., but f*ck those people. Hopefully they get caught and perma-banned.
     
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  18. mig100

    mig100 Pooh-Bah (2,747) Aug 3, 2014 Texas
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    Lottery is the way to go, and it's fair. Dole-out lotteries here and there for to-go bottles, but have that be the only way to get bottles to-go.

    All other bottles should be consume on-site only. Jester King's motto is the beer having a sense of place. What better way to convey that and experience that than to make their lambic-style beers only available in the exact place where they were brewed, naturally inoculated, aged and blended?
     
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  19. starkmarvelo

    starkmarvelo Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2010 Texas

    Maybe it's just me, but I see the lottery as a lazy way to go about it for the consumer and takes time and effort on JKs part. If you want it that bad, get your butt out there and get it. A lottery for 11k bottles is absurd.
     
  20. jamescain

    jamescain Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2009 Texas

    I vote no for lottery, but that's only because I haven't got a zwanze ticket yet:wink:
     
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