IPA Obsessions

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  1. puboflyons

    puboflyons Grand Pooh-Bah (4,299) Jul 26, 2008 New Hampshire
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    This thread is geared more toward he old geezers like me. But anyone can chime in.

    I have been drinking craft beer since 1986 and I simply cannot understand the obsession with IPA's. I never had problems with IPA's but there are so many styles out there and the IPA's get these 9 out of 10 and 10 out of 10 ratings. What's up with all of that?

    I give 10 out of 10 ratings to Abbey Ales or Barleywines I can't understand this obsession with IPA's or DIPA's, which are fine but to me not worth 9 or 10 out of 10 . Personally I think Heady Topper is fairly routine. Smuttynose the Finest Kind is about the same and more easily available. Same with many Sierra Nevada brews.

    Maybe I'm just too old. Long timer BA members - help me out on this one!
     
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  2. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    I think beer-fandom taste has simply shifted to more of a homegrown American product. (Partially because of product quality, and partially because of herd mentality... same as for the Trappists).

    They'll always be styles that aren't your preference, be proud of what differentiates you.

    As far as ratings go, it sounds like you aren't rating beers according to the merits of their style, but rather, according to a level of complexity that beer can reach. Some will fault you for this, but I'm not sure how many of those who'll cast stones will also rate a Budweiser a perfect 10 for style.
     
  3. Stignacious

    Stignacious Pooh-Bah (1,878) Aug 24, 2011 New York
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    My best guess is going to be that it's a direct result of a combination of advertising, the placebo effect (to some degree), and shifting tastes. Once IPA's became mildly popular, brewers jumped on the opportunity and flooded the market, just like they did with Barrel-aged beers. The market will continue to grow until it reaches its saturation point (maybe?) Marketing from brewers and word of mouth advertising about the newest hoppiest beer increases demand and encourages brewers to make more IPA's. I personally blame this on a character flaw within my own generation of millenials; we want the coolest new thing and we want it now.
    Similarly, scores of people rate Barrel-aged godknowswhat as 4's and 5's, even though the actual differences between them are just as contrived as the differences between IPA's. Does a particular bourbon barrel impact the drinking experience as much as a particular hop? Perhaps.

    My tastes are the same for many bourbon-barrel stouts and barleywines, but I'm able to detect subtle nuances within and differences between IPA's. Everyone's palate is different
     
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  4. DieHippieDie

    DieHippieDie Initiate (0) Oct 12, 2012 North Carolina

    I guess its an aquired taste, at least it was for me. After a few to get over the weird new taste it was delicious to me. The IPA obsession for the masses though, is like me and stouts :slight_smile:
     
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  5. TheIPAHunter

    TheIPAHunter Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,026) Aug 12, 2007 California
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    My man, don't hate. Taste is a subjective thing; palate to palate produces many nuances that can't be confined by the walls of BA. As beer drinkers, we reward what we like. As you sit here and target the IPA lover, conversely, the same thing could be said about the reviewer exalting Abbey Ales and Barleywines. Let's celebrate together and all raise a glass of our favorite beer, regardless of style. Cheers.
     
  6. ScaryEd

    ScaryEd Grand Pooh-Bah (3,793) Feb 19, 2012 New Hampshire
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    You certainly aren't the only one who feels that way here, but the simple answer is it's all about personal taste. A lot of people (myself included) love IPA's and DIPA's. A lot of people don't like them as much, or at all.

    It's easily the most popular style of beer being made in the US right now, at least in terms of craft, so naturally a lot of people will rate the ones they enjoy highly.

    There's certainly a level in which hype effects judgement, but honestly there are no "wrong" tastes or opinions when it comes to beer. You like what you like. It's really that simple.
     
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  7. bowzer4birdie

    bowzer4birdie Grand Pooh-Bah (3,796) Aug 16, 2012 Illinois
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    Simply put: It's your palate preference. Perhaps it will change at some point, perhaps not. Either way, you're stuck with the wonderful situation in which you seek out and enjoy the styles which best suit you. Nirvana!
     
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  8. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Not at least, definitely just in terms of "craft."
     
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  9. miketd

    miketd Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2006 Ohio

    I have been drinking almost as long as you and my opinion couldn't be more different. I love IPAs and drink them almost exclusively. I do agree that Heady Topper is nothing to get nutty over.
     
  10. ScaryEd

    ScaryEd Grand Pooh-Bah (3,793) Feb 19, 2012 New Hampshire
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    Yes. That's what I said.
     
  11. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey

    We are of a similar age and drinkinghhistory Count me as one of the Hopheads. I think part of the fasvination/obsession with IPAs is simply that their are so many great ones being made. I also think that it is easier to abbreviate an "in your face" ipa than it is to appreciate the subtleties in some of the other styles. I think this is starting to apply to sours as well.

    That being said. You might like IPAs more than you think. The only 5s you've given are to a DIP and an IPA and 3 of your top 5 ratings are IPA.
     
  12. algebeeric_topology

    algebeeric_topology Pooh-Bah (2,052) Dec 30, 2014 Florida
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    I think with the amount of bitterness and varying hop flavors, IPA was a great way for early craft brewers to put out a product very different from the lagers dominating the market. The bitterness allowed a lot of beer drinkers to explore a new dimension to their beer. IPA is also an easy beer to drink all year. Plenty are light enough for the summer and others are big enough for the winter. They don't take a ton of time to brew, and while you can get crazy with obscure hopping schedules and techniques, you don't have to for a solid beer.
     
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  13. VTBrewHound

    VTBrewHound Pundit (831) Jan 5, 2013 Vermont

    I don't even see DIPAs as necessarily bitter. A true, fresh DIPA can be fruity and malty, and truly
    delicious, without a massive bitterness. So, here we go with the whole freshness discussion. The fresher the better man! I rate a juicy DIPA up there with my favorite Belgian Tripels and Quads.
     
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  14. nesarebad

    nesarebad Pooh-Bah (1,868) Feb 4, 2012 Massachusetts
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    Definitely just a taste preference. You think most IPAs taste a like, I would disagree. A very wide spectrum of flavors out there in IPAs/DIPAs in my opinion.
     
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  15. RBassSFHOPit2ME

    RBassSFHOPit2ME Initiate (0) Mar 1, 2009 California

    Taste is subjective. I like oranges, you prefer apples. Nothing wrong with that at all. I feel the same way about Abbey ales that you do about IPAs.

    Cheers!
     
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  16. hopnado

    hopnado Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2014 Michigan

    IPA's are just a fad, like rap music and computers :flushed:
     
  17. RBassSFHOPit2ME

    RBassSFHOPit2ME Initiate (0) Mar 1, 2009 California

    I'll take a White Rajah faster than the rest of this community can say Heady Topper!
     
  18. AugustusRex

    AugustusRex Initiate (0) Apr 12, 2013 Canada (ON)

    LOL. Give me Budvar over Budweiser any day. I would love to have a real traditional American pilsner one day.
     
  19. PASSWORDisTAC0

    PASSWORDisTAC0 Aspirant (217) Jul 15, 2014 Alabama

    And I don't understand why you like Abbey Ales and Barleywines when I prefer a well crafted IPA or DIPA. People prefer different things. It's why we don't all drive the same car model and like the same food.

    Not a new or difficult concept here.
     
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  20. Pantalones

    Pantalones Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2014 Virginia

    There's only one real issue I have with IPA popularity: the fact that there's a dozen different IPAs on grocery store shelves, while I can't find a single example of some other styles I'd like to try more of, not even when they're fairly popular styles (stouts, Belgian-style ales, etc.) and breweries that definitely do distribute their beer here make one!

    (And I mean literally a dozen different IPAs... just off the top of my head, I know the Food Lion I usually go to has: Goose IPA, Sam Adams Rebel and Rebel Rider, Starr Hill Northern Lights, Devil's Backbone Eight Point, Waterfront IPA, New Belgium Ranger, Dogfish Head 90 Minute, Redhook Long Hammer, Kona has Castaway in a variety pack, I think the Newcastle variety packs have one... and I know I'm forgetting at least one or two. There's a lot.)

    Meanwhile, I think the only stouts I've ever seen on a regular grocery store shelf around here are Guinness and Duck-Rabbit Milk Stout. And that's stouts, which are the other super-popular style along with IPAs/pale ales in general.
     
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