IPA Recipe Critique!

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  1. The_Pumpkin_God

    The_Pumpkin_God Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2015

    Hello there,

    I always catch myself reading these lovely, insightful forums; so I figured that it's about time for me to join the party! I am a beginning extract brewer (just bottled my first batch: British Honey Nut Hop Ale). I am now wanting to brew up an American style IPA. I have a recipe in the works, but I wanted to get some input from you folks, prior to making any decisions! Like I said, I'm still new at this so if any of you have any suggestions on anything, including my steps or whatever, please don't hesitate to let me know! No offence will be taken if you call me names!

    This is what I had in mind:

    5 Gallon Batch (Boiling 2.5 Gallons of Water and Adding the Other 2.5 Later)
    Any recommendations on water type? I read that with IPAs this becomes more important.

    Mash at 152 Degrees
    For how long?

    7 lbs- Golden, Light, or Extra Light DME (Haven't decided yet. I have no knowledge of the differences)
    1 lbs- Vienna steeping grains

    Begin boil
    What boiling temperatures should I stay between?

    (All Pellet Hops)
    60 Min: Magnum Hops- 1.0 oz
    15 Min: Citra Hops- 0.5 oz
    10 Min: Citra Hops- 0.5 oz
    5 Min: Citra Hops- 1.0 oz
    Flameout: Citra Hops- 2.0 oz & 8 oz of Honey (I read this could be good for drying out the beer)?

    Cool Down to Room Temp
    Add the other 2.5 gallons of water to primary
    Add wart to primary
    Add yeast: White labs California Yeast
    Stir
    Add cap and airlock w/ sanitizer
    Store in a dark place
    Ferment at 70 degrees and keep in primary for 21 days (I don't want to secondary).
    Dry Hopping on Day 14: Citra Hops- 2 oz
    Add 4.5 oz of Dextrose to 1 cup of water and boil for 2 minutes
    Add to bottling bucket
    Siphon beer to bottling bucket
    Bottle
     
  2. minderbender

    minderbender Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2009 New York

    1. On selection of malt extract, I think a good approach is to use the lightest available DME (typically marketed as "pilsner" or "extra light" or something like that). Then if you want some other color/character, steep some specialty grains to achieve it. In this case, you have already settled on Vienna, which should give a touch of color, maltiness, and sweetness. So you're all set.

    2. Vienna should be mashed (and is capable of converting itself). I see that you mention a mash temperature, so maybe you already knew that. 152 degrees is fine. You should maybe do some reading on mini-mashes - it is not too difficult, but just make sure you know what you're doing.

    3. When brewing with malt extract, I think the best approach is to use distilled or reverse osmosis water. Barring that, just try to use a water without much in it. Don't use softened water (for instance, water that has been through a water softener), that is typically not suitable for brewing.

    It's true that for a hoppy beer people sometimes try to accentuate the sulfate content of the water, but for your second batch I think you're better off sticking to distilled or reverse osmosis water (given that you are using malt extract). It is much easier to cause problems than to hit the nail on the head in your circumstances. (To say a bit more: it is very hard to tell what minerals are already in your DME, since it has been through a mash already. If you ever switch to all-grain, water chemistry is something you will gain more control over. For now, it is unlikely that your water chemistry will be problematic if you simply use distilled or reverse osmosis water.)

    4. Boiling temperature is not something to worry about. Just maintain a vigorous boil. When measuring the length of your boil, don't start your timer (or whatever) until the wort is visibly boiling.

    5. Honey will dry out the beer. So will table sugar. It's up to you whether to take that approach. Don't overdo it (8 oz is reasonable, it seems to me). It is fine to add it at flameout.

    6. For the yeast, I would recommend a rehydrated packet of Safale US-05 dry yeast. This will give you plenty of yeast without having to make a starter or anything like that. US-05 is known for giving a clean, attenuative fermentation.

    7. I would shake the bucket (or is it a carboy?) for a little while to get oxygen dissolved into the wort. This should be done when the wort is already mixed with the water and is in the 60s Fahrenheit.

    8. Fermentation temperature control is important - 70°F is not ruinous but it is a little high. Can you find a way to keep it a few degrees cooler?

    9. I can't comment on the hop schedule but it looks vaguely reasonable. Likewise with the priming sugar - I haven't done the calculation but you should consult How to Brew which should give you a good idea of how much to use for your desired level of carbonation. Be careful to stir the priming sugar into the wort very thoroughly (don't splash it around, just stir at a moderate speed for long enough to mix it really well). This is important because a mal-distribution of priming sugar can result in some bottles being over-carbonated while others are flat.
     
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  3. The_Pumpkin_God

    The_Pumpkin_God Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2015

    Thank you for your response! Your feedback helped out a great deal! Maybe I am uncertain about the process of mashing. I was under the impression that I would have my 2.5 gallons of water in the kettle at about 152 degrees and then steep the Vienna grains for about 30 minutes, take them out and then add and stir in the DME for about another 20 or 30 minutes until it dissolved. I will certainly look into getting your recommended yeast, as I am trying to keep things as fairly basic as I can, while still attempting to achieve a delicious final product!
     
  4. minderbender

    minderbender Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2009 New York

    So, my sort of higher-level suggestion is to read How to Brew by John Palmer, which I am sure covers mini-mashes.

    But so let's talk specifics. You've got one pound of Vienna malt, which ideally should mash in about 1.5 quarts of water. 2.5 gallons is way too much. The way I would do it is heat up 1.5 quarts in a smaller pan and add the Vienna malt. Dialing in the exact temperature might be a little hard in those circumstances, but it is also not a big deal to be off by a few degrees. Let the grain sit there, occasionally checking the temperature and adjusting as necessary, for an hour. [Edited to add: I don't mean to suggest that you need to worry too much about the temperature. It's just that the temperature is likely to fall pretty fast in these circumstances, so you might briefly turn on the burner 2-3 times over the course of the hour to bump it back up to low 150s. Not a big deal though.] Then strain the water into your kettle (which you might have started heating with about 2.35 gallons while the mash is going on). What a lot of people would do is hold the Vienna malt in a bag (like this one - you can find similar products from just about any homebrew-oriented retailer) in the smaller pan. Then you can just lift the spent grains right out when the mash is done. If you have your kettle heating up at that point, you could swirl the bag in the kettle (being careful not to let go!) to rinse the last of the sugars from the spent grains.

    Once you have your kettle going with the liquid from the mini-mash + however much water it takes to get to 2.5 gallons, do your boil as normal. In other words, once you've got a boil, add the DME, stir it in, add the hops, etc. I would do a full 60-minute boil - after all, you've got a 60 minute hop addition!
     
  5. The_Pumpkin_God

    The_Pumpkin_God Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2015

    Thank you all for your input! I will certainly take all of this advice with me, as I attempt to brew something up!
     
  6. MADhombrewer

    MADhombrewer Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2008 Oregon

    I would add another half ounce or ounce of hops at the 60min or at 45min. I just did an IPA and I usually add too much. This time I backed off and it was too little. My IPA turned out to be a great pale.
     
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