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I would ditch the victory malt with all the different hops you have you want them to shine. And I would drop the 45 and 30 minute additions and boost the last 15 minute hop additions instead. You'll get plenty of bitterness from the oz of Columbus at 60. And maybe save the mosaic hops for A different beer and dry hop with the simcoe if you have more

 

I'm going to be critical, but it's for your own good. I usually use smiley faces when I do this, but I see a recipe that's trying to be too cute. I don't see it fitting into an IPA territory.

Agreed with @icepick Victory malt is seen more in a brown ale. It's that distinctive nut brown flavor. You could push this towards a hoppy brown ale, if you like. I'd cut back on it even then. It's really about what you want to accomplish, but we'll need more to go on. Do you want this West Coast dry, or balanced?

As for the hops, it looks like you're not allowed to use a hop more than once. What gives? <---got one in anyway. I think that a lot of these hops will play well together. (Disclosure: I have no experience with Mosaic). Now, especially for your fourth batch, I'd be trying to keep things a little simple. Often times when you have a kitchen sink beer, you get muddled results. This is true for both malt bills and hop schedules.

I'll step back and say that if you want to honor your son's recipe, let's work with that. I would start by redirecting the style to a hoppy American Brown Ale. Not a bad thing at all. You're going to want some Chocolate malt in the bill. You'll want to cut back on the Victory, and you may want to mix up the crystal malts. A pound max. .5# Carapils for body, and another base malt to add depth.

Please lean on your son to cut the hops down from 7 varieties to about 4.5. Simcoe and Chinook are at the bottom of the list and the first to be cut, (personal preference). Chinook is very spicy and dominates a lot of what C hops can lend a beer and Simcoe can be a little catty and unpredictable. Use with moderation.

Hoppy Son's Brown:

9# Am 2 row
.5 # carapils malt
2# Munich malt (I'm stuck with a sack of the stuff. Use Vienna, or MO if you like)
.75# chocolate malt
.5# Victory malt
.75# crystal 30L malt

Mash at 152 for 60 min

Hops:

60 min
Columbus

10 min
2.5 oz (TOTAL) of C hops and Mosaic

5 min
2.5 oz (TOTAL) of C hops and Mosic

Flame out
2.5 oz (TOTAL) of C hops and Mosic

Dry hop
3 oz of 60%-80% of what you used above and 1 other hop.

I didn't give you a quantity for your 60 min Columbus for a reason. You'll want to put everything through an IBU calculator and you'll want to adjust your 60 min bittering hop LAST so that you get the number of IBUs that you want. The other quantities should remain high so you get the flavor and aroma that you want.

I'm not against some 30 min hops or 20 min hops. I think for this beer to work it needs to be heavy in IBUs to get through the Victory and the crystal. It's heavily hopped in the end to work as a beer that you can drink fresh. Don't skimp on the late addition hops.

If I'm off base, let us know and we can work towards an American IPA. I know I was kind of critical, but I want to try to help you make a beer that's worthwhile for you and your son.

 

I hope you have a good timer with all those hop additions. For IPAs keep malt bill simple 2 row and no more than 5% crystal. Also, I would cut the hop varieties down. Grab two or three you prefer and use them evenly. Also, would help to know what style ipA as well as the specs like OG, abv, ibus etc

 

No offense @inchrisin but it seems OP (and son) are shooting for a WestCoast IPA with a bit of body/malt complexity...so I wouldnt redirect em at all. Sounds like they're shooting for a dank, resinous (chinook, simcoe) IPA with a desire for some tropical lychee or grapefruit on the flavor/aroma (citra/cascade). Keep it simple OP, drop the Victory and maybe keep the C30 under 5-8%. Cut out the 45/30 hop adds. ADD MORE 15/FO/Whirlpool hops. With the crystal, mash 148-152. Keep the Mosaic for DH as it complements Simcoe and Citra favorably! Sounds yummy!

 

What do your IBUs come in at if you remove the 60 min Columbus?

 

That looks solid to me. The only other recommendations would be to change the 60 to first wort, get a more pleasant bitterness, but that's just a personal preference. I Iike the late additions of citra and DH of Mosiac.

 

Now THAT looks like a tasty west coast IPA! Brew that ish up!

 

More dry hop - at least 3-4 oz.

 

I was thinking the same but with 3 ozs at flameout that should really add to the aroma?

 

The beers I've done with Mosaic (3 of them) I found it dominated. Even when I added same amount of Simcoe. Hopefully the dry hop will cut down on the dominance. Also used it 1:1 ratio with Amarillo and I couldn't perceive the Amarillo at all. Good luck!