IPA?

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  1. BeerMePls

    BeerMePls Initiate (0) Apr 15, 2020

    I’m new to this and looking to experiment-any feedback appreciated.
    5 gallon batch(boil 3 gallons water add remaining 2 after cool down)
    60 min boil

    Start boil steeping 1lb flaked oats for 20 mins
    45 min pt: add 6lbs briess Pilsen malt extract syrup and 1lb briess Pilsen light DME
    20 mins: add 1lb briess Bavarian wheat DME
    Flameout: 1 oz el dorado hops

    When wort cools to 155-165 degrees add 1oz Minnesota Julius hops

    Pitch omega yeast 200 tropical IPA and seal

    2-3 days into fermentation dry hop 1 oz azacca 1 oz galaxy

    10 days into fermentation dry hop 1 oz azacca 1 oz ekuanot 1 oz galaxy.

    Bottle on day 15

    thoughts?
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    If you can manage it, a full boil will make a better beer than a partial boil plus top off, but many people do start with partial boils. It does make beer. Also, for a 5 gallon batch, you'll need more than 5 gallons of total water, to cover boil off, hop absorption, etc.

    Flaked Oats need to be mashed along with a base malt, not simply steeped. If you just steep them, you'll have lots of unconverted starches in the wort/beer, which is not generally desirable, and is not good for shelf life.

    If your first hop addition is flameout, you're not going to get much bitterness. I know (or think) you're going for a New England type IPA, and they are typically nowhere near as bitter as a traditional IPA, but you still need some bitterness to balance.

    I don't know what you mean by "seal," but you need an airlock of some sort to allow CO2 from fermentation to escape.

    My feedback would be "don't experiment" with your first batch. Use a proven recipe and process. That will greatly increase your odds of making a drinkable beer. Also, read "How to Brew" before you start brewing. If you find anything in "How to Brew" confusing, you can ask this forum for clarification.
     
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  3. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    once being a extract brewer I must agree with vikeman, full boils have better quality than adding water IMO.
    good luck

    brew on
     
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  4. BeerMePls

    BeerMePls Initiate (0) Apr 15, 2020

    Thanks for the help. I’ve done a few recipe kits and I’m trying to venture away from that-that’s what I mean by “experimenting”. 100% going with a full boil..why does the “fruit bazooka” recipe kit on northern brewer have steeping flaked oats if it’s not desirable? Would crushed carapils malt work or does that need to be double crushed?
     
  5. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I see at least two possibilities:
    - They couldn't stand the idea of not cashing in on a NEIPA extract kit.
    - They are clueless and think unconverted starch is the way to make an IPA hazy.

    You can steep carapils. Carapils and oats are not really substitutes for each other. Their contributions to mouthfeel, foam, and haze will not be the same. Carapils should be crushed just like any other malt, using an appropriate roller gap for the mill you're using. "Double crushing" is a thing people do when the first crush is inadequate. So if you have no way to adjust the gap, and the first crush sucks, go ahead an run the grains through again.
     
  6. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    If you must use oats, consider Golden Naked Oats, since they can be steeped. Not the same as flaked, but will add a bit of the oat mouthfeel. They will need to be double crushed, since they are so small, or you can reduce the gap on your rollers if you have your own mill.
     
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  7. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    hey MRoH do you prefer them in any type of beer over regualr rolled oats?
     
  8. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Rolled oats and GNOs are not replacements for each other IMHO. One is essentially a crystal malt and adds sweetness but little body. The other seems to add body but not much flavor contribution. Just my experience.
    Edit. It may be useful to use GNO in place of honey malt if you're into that kind of thing in an IPA
     
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  9. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    I don't know that I prefer one over the other in certain styles. I do tend to use GNOs more often. I like them in IPAs and saisons. As @SFACRKnight says, they're not really a substitute for flaked oats, but it's the closest you'll come with a steepable grain.
     
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  10. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I like em in my stouts in place of other crystal malts. I tried some in a pale ale and it didnt work for me. I'm a product of the bone dry bitter bomb IPA trend so theres that. Lol
     
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