Is Burp castle NYC still open?

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  1. BelgianFox

    BelgianFox Aspirant (292) Nov 15, 2019 Belgium
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    Does anyone know if BURP CASTLE on
    41 E. 7th St. NewYork, NY 10003 is still in business? The last "what's on tap" on their website says march 2017.
     
  2. BoardwalkBock

    BoardwalkBock Pooh-Bah (2,041) Aug 18, 2012 New York
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    It looks like they still are from their google map hours but I’d call first. Also, there is an amazing Ukranian/eastern european place next to it - Streecha - that is worth the visit.
     
  3. guinness77

    guinness77 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,554) Jan 6, 2014 New York
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    I find this kinda hard to believe but it must still be open. They have a yelp review that’s from 2 days ago. I thought for sure it wasn’t there anymore.
     
  4. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Out of curiosity, why do you ask? Are you interested in going there during a NY trip?
     
  5. BelgianFox

    BelgianFox Aspirant (292) Nov 15, 2019 Belgium
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    Not in the near future, as covid still has the world in it's grip but, as a Belgian, I was doing a bit of research where there was Duvel on tap in the NYC area.
    Burp Castle was one of the names that popped up but their website is apparently not up to date.
     
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  6. gabea

    gabea Crusader (405) May 5, 2009 New York

    ahh I miss the East Village. Standings, Burp Castle, and Jimmys are some of the craft beer OGs.
     
  7. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    You thinking about a vacation or you’re moving here?
     
  8. BoardwalkBock

    BoardwalkBock Pooh-Bah (2,041) Aug 18, 2012 New York
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    If/when you get here, Vol de Nuit (Greenwich/West Village) is the best Belgian beer bar (IMO) in the city. They routinely have duvel, tripel karmeliat, la chouffe, etc. on tap. Great place too. They’ve been closed since covid hit but I hope to be drinking a beer there in the near future.

    After that, walk across the street to Volare for some great old school Italian food (all beer recs come with food recs around here!)
     
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  9. guinness77

    guinness77 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,554) Jan 6, 2014 New York
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    Been years since I’ve been there but the BXL Cafe in midtown had a lot of solid Belgian choices and delicious mussels. Went there for dinner once and another time for some Champions League footie and had a great time both times.
     
  10. BelgianFox

    BelgianFox Aspirant (292) Nov 15, 2019 Belgium
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    Extremely early stages for a holiday trip. As I mentioned, covid has not nearly left the building.
     
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  11. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    No doubt Duvel is an awesome beer - but would you not be keen to branch out / try beers you wouldn’t be able to try back home, when you make the trip?
     
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  12. KingforaDay

    KingforaDay Pooh-Bah (2,445) Aug 5, 2010 New Jersey
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    Also temporarily closed due to Covid but I seem to remember Duvel always being on tap at Ginger Man also whenever I went (although it's been a while).
    But as @rozzom said, I would think the OP would want to sample some of the great beers NYC has to offer rather than something he sees everywhere back home.
     
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  13. BelgianFox

    BelgianFox Aspirant (292) Nov 15, 2019 Belgium
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    Off course!!! I would. I would want to dive in the NY bar/eat culture as soon as I checked in the hotel. My wife and I nearly always drink and eat out, we use the hotel just for sleeping. It would be a shame to miss all the nice places I read here on beeradvocate.
     
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  14. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Places that claim to have Duvel on tap almost always don't actually have Duvel on tap. It's most likely "Duvel Single" - a different beer. You might be familiar with this beer, but if not - It's Citra dry-hopped, lower in ABV, lacking secondary fermentation, and with lower carbonation. Duvel is designed as a bottled beer. The high carbonation doesn't really work in standard draught lines. There are a handful of places in Europe with specially designed draught systems to handle Duvel that's undergone secondary fermentation in a keg... but I believe that this is a very rare exception.

    I'm guessing you probably can't be in a better country to enjoy Duvel than where you currently are. Enjoy it at its best state the way it was meant to be - as a bottled beer. It's one of the things that makes Duvel Duvel. Plus, your country has proper Belgian (:wink:) drinking establishments when compared to some kitschy Belgian-inspired cartoon like Burp Castle (that's honestly not meant as an insult to Burp Castle).

    The above is just meant to be helpful. If Duvel Single on tap in Burp Castle is exactly what you want when coming to NYC - then you should totally do it (but it's not always on tap there). You can use an app called beermenus to search for the beer on tap in NYC - just pay attention to the date that the taplist was updated. You can also buy 4 pack cans of Duvel Single around here. Of course, the future of any NYC bar is precarious at the moment. Good luck.
     
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  15. BelgianFox

    BelgianFox Aspirant (292) Nov 15, 2019 Belgium
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    Sorry for the delay in answering #zid, covid got the best of us here.
    You are correct, I am living in somewhat of the Walhalla of beer but nevertheless, there are MUCH more bars in France that serve Duvel on tap than there are in Belgium.
    It was my believe, Duvel on tap meant just that in the US also, Duvel on tap. So thank you for clarifying that for me.
     
  16. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    OK - Now I better understand where you're coming from. There are a handful of bars in the US that have "Duvel on tap." I don't know if there are any in New York City. I was only making an assumption that Burp Castle is not one of those US establishments, but I honestly don't know. A bar has to go through a good bit of effort to serve it that way, so if I would assume that they'd have it stated on their website. If I see a US bar state that they have Duvel on tap without calling attention to it being special, I would just assume that it's not regular Duvel... even if they list the ABV at 8.5%. My first instinct would be to assume that they just don't realize what they're actually serving.

    I just looked up it's availability in Belgium, and found this list:
    Queen Elisabeth Hall in Antwerp
    the Handelsbeurs in Ghent
    the BOZAR arts centre

    What's the thinking behind having it in these concert halls and art spaces? Any ideas? How common is it in France?

    To be honest, I find the entire concept lacking. It's a way to get Duvel sales in the on-premise realm in cultures where that equates to keg rather than bottle. To do so, they're bending over backwards and falling victim to the necessities of draught (like needing to serve the beer very cold) all in the attempt to make the beer come close to what they've already achieved in the bottle. All pain and no gain.

    If you're interested in it because you're a bit of a "completist," I totally get it though. I'll let you know if I ever see a NYC place with it.
     
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  17. BelgianFox

    BelgianFox Aspirant (292) Nov 15, 2019 Belgium
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    I will not try to understand why Duvel decided to have their beer "on tap". That decision was most likely taken by putting bright minds together in a Duvel boardroom. Way out of my league. :sunglasses:
    But Duvel on tap was introduced in the US, correct me if I am wrong, around 2012. I can't see any reason for a bar to say they have this or that beer on tap, when they haven't. I admit, it might not be exactly the same Duvel you would expect as the one in a bottle but nevertheless it's a Duvel. Over here in Europe we definitely serve the original Duvel on tap. Same ABV, same secondary fermentation (in a keg).
    There is a map on the Duvel website that shows the places in Belgium and surrounding country's where you can have it. In France it's about 200 places.
    As for why Duvel has it in concert halls and art spaces, it's probably a lot easier to serve a big crowd by using kegs instead of bottles. Also, Duvel has this long therm thing with Art, hence the artist glasses. There has been collaborations with BAM fest in Santa Monica, Art Basel in Miami, Winking Lizard in Ohio, Culture Space etc.
     
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  18. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    The focus here is impressive! Goddamn!
     
  19. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    It's not out of your league. :slight_smile: It's just about increasing sales at bars and whatnot where bottles aren't the main seller.
    2018 and in Europe... I think. I could be totally wrong. Duvel Green (which predates Duvel Single) predates that though.
    Oh. Thanks for that. it seems like this has been a success for them. There are now more spots in the UK (8 compared to the initial 2) and a whole lot more in Belgium compared to that list of 3 I posted earlier. "Duvel on tap" isn't even an item on the US version of the site (unlike France, UK, Belgium)... and the US doesn't seem to work for that finder map.
     
  20. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    And it has shined a light on the worst of us here. :slight_frown:
     
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