Is consecration a good example of a sour?

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  1. Czar_chasm

    Czar_chasm Initiate (0) Jun 20, 2012 Michigan

    As I've never had sours before, I was stoked to try consecration when it came in my haul today. Bleh! I mean, I realize it's because personally I can't stand the taste of red wine. I guess it was pretty dumb to not read exactly what it was barreled in etc. I was turned off to Saison's with Sofie from GI for similar reasons.

    What would be better examples of these beer types (keeping in mind that red wine doesn't appeal to me at all?)

    Thanks!
     
  2. tewaris

    tewaris Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2009 Minnesota

    Temptation is my favorite from RR. Not a fan of red wine myself. Looking for something extremely clean and dry? 3F Oude Gueuze is my recommendation.
     
  3. Overlord

    Overlord Initiate (0) Jun 28, 2007 California

    Consecration is a pretty rough one to start with. You kind of need to ease yourself into sours. I recommend you try to find the Cantillon Kriek 100% Lambic. It's a more gentle, friendly introduction to the genre.
     
  4. Czar_chasm

    Czar_chasm Initiate (0) Jun 20, 2012 Michigan

    Thanks!

    It seems like out of those three temptation might be the easiest to come by (since the other 2 are overseas?). Are they really rare / hard to trade for?
     
  5. zac16125

    zac16125 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,432) Jan 26, 2010 South Carolina
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    Consecration being Bleh? I feel bad for you for having such awful taste buds! It is delicious! But dont give up, there are many examples of "sours", and although Im not particularly versed in this genre, from my experience there is a vast variety within the sour category. Wild ales, lambics/gueuze's, certain saisons. All taste very different. Plus when you take into account various types of barrel aging and you have quite a variety of sour tasting beers. If you are heart set on enjoying the style, Im sure you will be able to find some you like.
     
  6. csano

    csano Initiate (0) Sep 21, 2010 Washington
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    This is exactly why I like Consecration with age (read: 1-2 years) on it.

    Have you ever had any of the Cascade sours? If not, I recommend the Apricot or Kriek. Both are fantastic introductions to sours, IMO.
     
  7. SpdKilz

    SpdKilz Pooh-Bah (2,239) Jan 8, 2009 Illinois
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    Get your hands on Temptation. I much prefer it over Consecration and it was my first real sour, and remains one of my favorites. It should be relatively easy to trade for.

    Cheers!
     
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  8. stupac2

    stupac2 Pooh-Bah (2,031) Feb 22, 2011 California
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    It should be, but for some reason it hasn't been released in a while. I haven't seen it anywhere. I really want it to come back, it's my favorite too.

    Also, OP, Overlord's post is a joke. Cantillon Kriek is extremely sour.
     
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  9. Czar_chasm

    Czar_chasm Initiate (0) Jun 20, 2012 Michigan

    No, I've never had any sours before today. It looks like sang noir would have similar problems but I'm considering ordering the vine off their website.
     
  10. Czar_chasm

    Czar_chasm Initiate (0) Jun 20, 2012 Michigan

    Thanks for the info. I actually enjoy the finish of this beer but the initial taste of red wine is barely worth each sip.
     
  11. Czar_chasm

    Czar_chasm Initiate (0) Jun 20, 2012 Michigan

    I'd probably like it as I'm not adverse to sour. Does sour patch kids make a beer? Thanks for the help as usual stupac! In my short time here it seems like you're helping me with 90% of my questions.

    Cheers!
     
  12. Alieniloquium

    Alieniloquium Grand Pooh-Bah (3,862) Dec 16, 2008 Florida
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    I agree with what you think of Consecration. It's got a ton of wine in it. As it ages, the wine is less prominent and I think the beer improves significantly. Fresh, I find it difficult to drink. Older batches are really tasty, though.
    That said, you might want to start with easier-to-find sours that don't have crazy fruit additions or barrels, like Petrus Aged Pale. I started with that one and I learned my preference when it comes to sours.
     
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  13. stxSS07

    stxSS07 Initiate (0) Nov 23, 2010 Illinois

    The Bruery's Mother Funker will do the trick, although I compare that more to the Warheads of my youth.
     
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  14. stupac2

    stupac2 Pooh-Bah (2,031) Feb 22, 2011 California
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    I don't remember sour candy being so vinegary.
     
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  15. peteinSD

    peteinSD Initiate (0) Apr 25, 2010 California

    consecration is a world class beer. don't force yourself to like any beer or beer style; beer is not a test or something to be learned. beer is for fun.

    drink what you want and the rest will follow naturally. cheers.
     
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  16. csano

    csano Initiate (0) Sep 21, 2010 Washington
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    Yes. I have bottles of Sang Noir/Royal sitting in my cellar, waiting for the wine flavors to mellow out a little bit.

    You probably won't like The Vine. I'd stick with something easier to get locally. Do you get Petrus Pale Ale? If so, I'd start with that. And given that you're in MI, try Jolly Pumpkin's La Roja.
     
  17. phillybeer7779

    phillybeer7779 Initiate (0) May 31, 2010 Pennsylvania

    Interesting, Consecration was my "blue pill" sour, but I do like red wine. Temptation is my favorite nowadays, but at least here in Philly, its on the shelves for the shortest period of time
     
  18. stxSS07

    stxSS07 Initiate (0) Nov 23, 2010 Illinois

    Hate to love it, or love to hate it.
     
  19. BigTomZ

    BigTomZ Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2009 Virginia

    You are still new to sours. The beers you tried are decent intros to the style. There are many people who don't like sours. There are some who don't develop a taste for them right away but end up loving them down the road. Give them a chance, and if you don't like them give them another try sometime down the road. Sours/Wilds in my opinion are just like hop bombs. People usually either love them or hate them.

    I for example love sour candy, but do not like sours or wilds beers. I have tried Cantillon, RR, 3F, Bruery, Fantome, etc. and have not liked them so far. It just isn't my thing. I believe I've given them a fair chance, and will probably still try some here and there just to be sure. Even stuff like Jackie O's that isn't really "sour" but seems to have that slight tart character in all of their beers. I just can't seem to get into it.

    My wife on the other hand loves sours. When you see me trading for sours, they are for her. She started out only liking Belgian Pales and Wits. One day I picked up some Sofie and she loved it. Not long after that I got a Tank 7 as an extra, then some Jolly Pumpkin, then some RR stuff. She really liked those, obviously much more than I did. One day I found a Cantillon Classic Geueze and as expected she really liked it. Sofie was the one that started her down the path to sours.

    Ok so that was a long post, but hopefully somewhat helpful.
     
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  20. Czar_chasm

    Czar_chasm Initiate (0) Jun 20, 2012 Michigan

    Point taken. To be honest I'd seen some lambic's (generic) and the genre never really appealed to me. I usually go for IPA's or darker beers. Seeing all the hype around sours on here prompted me to check them out. I have a beat (b5 i think) on the way but I think I'll save that for a bigger occasion (like after first round of boards or something).

    I really liked pliny and figured I'd try another beer from them since I had the opportunity. I probably should have done more due diligence before paying so much for something so apparently adverse to my taste.

    The main reason I'm on the site is to try a bunch of beers / styles I haven't been exposed to before. In doing that I expect to come across a few ones I don't like very much. The "bad ones" make you appreciate your favorites that much more!

    Cheers!
     
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