Is mixing brews acceptable?

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  1. BigHopValley

    BigHopValley Devotee (317) Jul 18, 2014 Washington

    ...wasnt original black&tan Harp Lager and Guinness?
     
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  2. sportscrazed2

    sportscrazed2 Pooh-Bah (2,360) Mar 29, 2010 American Samoa
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    Why bother? If I don't like one of the beers I just won't buy it again. Why mix it with something I do like?
     
  3. deleted_user_995920

    deleted_user_995920 Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2015

    I sometimes mix beer if they are from the same brewer. The same yeast is an important factor. For example I would mix Founders stout with a founders lager or pils which makes a great black and tan.
     
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  4. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Founder's uses a bottom-fermenting lager yeast to make it's stout? That'd be pretty unusual.

    In the US, some (but it seems to have been a minority) "Half and half" beers were a combination of a brewer's top-fermented ale, porter or stout with their lager beer.
     
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  5. eppCOS

    eppCOS Grand Pooh-Bah (4,570) Jun 27, 2015 Colorado
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    Only when I get frustrated and I can't find a good dark ale, black IPA. Then I make my own.
    Witness, any good hoppy IPA + Obsidian Stout//Malpais Stout = my kind of magic. Once in a while.
     
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  6. deleted_user_995920

    deleted_user_995920 Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2015

    You just said 1/2 & 1/2 beers were stout mixed with lager. I said the same thing. I am not a biologist or chemist regarding yeast.
     
  7. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    No, I said "some" brewers' "Half and Half" beers were top-fermented ale, porter or stout mixed with their lager. Many others were combinations of top-fermented ale/porter, etc.

    But you seemed to claim Founders used the "same yeast" for their lager and pils and their stout, and that the "same yeast" was an "important factor" in mixing beers.

    Doesn't take a degree to understand the difference between top- and bottom-fermenting yeasts.
     
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  8. deleted_user_995920

    deleted_user_995920 Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2015

    By the way, how do you know if there is not a common denominator with their bottom and top fermenting yeast. Same strain bred with different attributes ?
     
  9. deleted_user_995920

    deleted_user_995920 Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2015

    Does not take a degree to be a wise ass, that is evident-
     
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  10. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Founders' website:
     
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  11. deleted_user_995920

    deleted_user_995920 Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2015

    You are taking things to literal. In the initial post I said "For Example" using "Founders" It was hypothetical. Yes I do mix same brewery dark and light beers but not Founders. I do not drink American adjunct lager. I can taste a common thread in both bottom and top fermenting beers from the same brewer. I assume it is the yeast. It is not common for me to mix beers. I have to be quite inebriated.
     
  12. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    What you are picking up is not the same yeast though. There are some important differences between an ale yeast and a lager yeast in the flavors they produce, even when the beers both come from the same brewery.

    To develop a clearer understanding, you can start with the Beer 101 essay on yeast on this site. Then follow up with this:

    https://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-01/beersci-what-difference-between-lager-and-ale

    which gets a bit more detailed and adds in a lot of interesting additional stuff.
     
  13. deleted_user_995920

    deleted_user_995920 Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2015

    For jesskiddin "to is a typo for too"
     
  14. IPAExpert69

    IPAExpert69 Savant (1,065) Aug 2, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Yeah but harp really doesn't add anything for me. Everyone has their personal preferences I guess.
     
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  15. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Well, Anheuser-Busch for one was selling a beer called "Black & Tan" a good half century before Harp even existed.
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    While not nearly as popular a term as "Half 'n' Half" (and commonly not used in Guinness' home of Ireland for non-beer reasons), the phrase - usually referring to a blend of stout and bitter/pale ale (rather than a "yellow/amber" lager) - has been around.
     
  16. Klister

    Klister Zealot (660) Oct 27, 2010 Maine

    Mixing is like masturbation. we all do it, we just don't all admit it. Furthermore, even if you screw up, its still a least mildly pleasing.
     
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  17. Gushue3

    Gushue3 Savant (1,018) Jun 10, 2010 Massachusetts
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    Not the craziest thing you can do. Growing up I remember my father used mixing his High Life with "dark beer". Crushing porters or stouts must have gotten him too full so he mixed with easier to drink light stuff.
     
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  18. Mongrel

    Mongrel Initiate (0) Feb 14, 2013 Maryland

    Founders Porter mixed with Rubaeus is heavenly.
     
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  19. DudeBeerYaBro

    DudeBeerYaBro Initiate (0) Nov 3, 2014 California
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    I live that cuvee life hard. Never met two ipas i didn't want to post ferm coov in my glass. #cuv'n&groov'n
     
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  20. Dan_K

    Dan_K Pooh-Bah (1,980) Nov 8, 2013 Colorado
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    I really enjoyed BCBS + Raspberry Mead 2:1
    Or a base imperial stout with a 1/2 shot of whiskey added.
     
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