Is Pumpkin Beer alien to the PNW?

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  1. Reidrover

    Reidrover Grand Pooh-Bah (4,886) Jan 14, 2003 Oregon
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    Was wondering..seeing these nasty "beers" getting more popular now.
    I always thought the Fresh Hop Ale was our thing?
    When i arrived up here in 2000 i cant remember any Oregon pumpkin ales.(.probably AB-Elysian had started them by then).
    Thoughts?
     
  2. philhyde

    philhyde Crusader (435) Jul 22, 2010 Oregon

    I'm from Texas, and I can't remember pumpkin beers from way back then either. If anything, it seems like there used to be more spiced winter warmers.
     
  3. NathanA

    NathanA Initiate (0) Sep 26, 2015 Idaho

    I remember trying ST Pumking on someone's recommendation a couple years ago, and it was nasty. Just terrible. I have no idea how it got the score that it has on this site. It was the first pumpkin beer I had ever tried, and it turned me off to pumpkin beers entirely.

    But as much as I don't care for straight-up pumpkin ales, I could see maybe the addition of a reasonable bit of pumpkin to a stout working well. I think a darker, roastier, maltier, creamier beer -- like an imperial oatmeal stout -- could stand up to that adjunct better. Anybody happen to try any pumpkin stouts that they liked?

    -- Nathan
     
  4. NWer

    NWer Pooh-Bah (2,145) Mar 10, 2009 Washington
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    As fresh hop beers are winding down, imperial stouts are picking up. I have no time or inclination for pumpkin beers.
     
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  5. TheWiltChamberlainofipas

    TheWiltChamberlainofipas Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2015 Oregon

    For everyone who doesn't like pumpkin beers remember there are those that love them. I enjoy st pumking tremendously as a dessert beer with a little kick, but it is very sweet and a bomber is to much to drink. Also punkinccino is a very well made beer.
     
  6. NathanA

    NathanA Initiate (0) Sep 26, 2015 Idaho

    I didn't think it was sweet at all. To me, it tasted like one would expect the result to be if somebody threw raw squash into a blonde ale. It had a very off after-taste/finish. I think it was one of my brothers who commented that it tasted like beer that had been brewed with band-aids.

    This was on-tap at a local establishment. Maybe we encountered a bad batch.

    -- Nathan
     
  7. TheWiltChamberlainofipas

    TheWiltChamberlainofipas Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2015 Oregon

    Haven't had it on tap in awhile, but the bottles I've had this year were great in my humble opinion. It's pumpkin pie in a glass to me everything from the spices to the crust minus the whipped cream.
     
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  8. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Completely agree with you Nathan (though personally, I'm not sure I'm all that big fan of punkinccino). I'm not a huge fan of pumpkin beers either (I usually try a couple each year, which is about as much as I can handle), but I know plenty of folks who are big fans of pumpkin beer, and look forward to pumpkin beer season every year. When I lived on the East Coast, a lot of folks looked forward to ST and DFH's pumpkin beer release each year.

    They don't seem to be as popular out here in the NW, but I do have some friends at work who are fans. A lot of places around town have at least a couple of pumpkin beers on tap right now, and I assume they wouldn't bother to do that each year if they didn't sell.
     
  9. BuckeyeOne

    BuckeyeOne Initiate (0) Mar 9, 2008 Washington

    I have to agree with others that ST Pumking is one of the nastiest beers I've ever had --- and I like pumpkin beers. I found it cloyingly sweet and an aftertaste rancid vanilla syrup. :grimacing:

    With that said, I am one of those PNW folks who look forward to pumpkin beers and looked forward to the annual Elysian Pumpkin Fest. I don't go anymore.
     
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  10. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Couldn't agree with you more, but damn if that beer doesn't have a following back East. That combination of high alcohol, over the top sweetness and pumpkin spice just makes for one hot, nasty package (IMHO). And like you it sounds, I find the finish and after taste particularly off putting.

    What I thought was interesting, is that the BA version and the rum version weren't nearly so off putting. The barrel aging and rum flavor seemed to tame a lot of the heat and sweetness, and the spices seem to blend in better as well. Oh well, each to their own... there are plenty of folks who think ST pumking is the bee's knees, whatever I may happen to think of it.
     
  11. philhyde

    philhyde Crusader (435) Jul 22, 2010 Oregon

    I'll throw my hat in as a ST Pumking fan. The sweetness doesn't bother me, and I find the "rind forward" style appealing. Although I am not a connoisseur of the style, I haven't found another example with that flavor profile.

    While on the topic of ST, I have heard that people mix Pumking with ST Creme Brûlée. Mixing beers really isn't my thing, but it sounds crazy enough that I'd try it. Unfortunately, Creme Brûlée is another seasonal that isn't available right now.

    I had a bottle of pFriem Pumpkin Bier last night, and was impressed. It's more of a belgian style ale with pumpkin. Developed nicely as it warmed up, and I was wishing the bottle wasn't so small. If they made an imperial version of this, it might well kick ass.
     
  12. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Yep. My GF thinks it's a fun blend, which is why I grabbed a bottle of ST pumking at the store last weekend. We have a couple of bottles of crème brulee from the last release (which I know has been a while now), and I plan to mix the beers at an upcoming BA stout tasting we're doing. For some reason, the CB seems to tame a lot of the things I don't care for in the ST pumking. It's still very sweet, but the CB flavor seems to make the beer less cloying and boozy, and I don't get the unpleasant pumking aftertaste either.
     
  13. jae

    jae Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2010 Washington

    I made a dark sour pumpkin saison last year. It was good.
     
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  14. jarbroen

    jarbroen Initiate (0) Jul 21, 2014 Washington

    I was a huge fan of pumpkin beers last year and this year I kinda dgaf.
    Maybe because there are just so many great beers out there and there isn't enough time to wade through crappy pumpkins.
    For every pumpkin beer I enjoyed last year I had at least one drain pour.
    I do always enjoy the dogfish head Punkin. It's more of a subtle pumpkin rather than the Southern Tier approach.
    I also enjoyed Ft George's Squash Buckler. All they added was fresh carmelized pumpkin. Apparently, I like the simple pumpkin beers.
    Oh, Ballast Point's pumpkin was pretty good too. But dfh beats it by a slight margin.
     
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  15. nimojo

    nimojo Initiate (0) Sep 21, 2015 Oregon

  16. NathanA

    NathanA Initiate (0) Sep 26, 2015 Idaho

    Haha, yeah, I have been guilty of sharing that one on social media this year, too. :wink:

    All of this talk makes me want to try Pumking again, though, only because *nobody's* description here matches my memory of it. If I am going to hate it, I want to hate it for accurate reasons... :wink:

    I have also been curious to try Warlock, to satisfy my curiosity about pumpkin stouts. But I haven't found anybody around here that carries it.

    -- Nathan
     
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  17. westcoastbeergeek

    westcoastbeergeek Initiate (0) Sep 16, 2015 Canada (BC)

    My personal experience is that there are some pretty awesome one's out there and a lot of over spiced garbage one's out there. It's increased seasonal popularity has caused a lot of breweries to brew a lot of it and distribute it as far as possible.

    Fresh hops is still our thing, but it's a very short, niche, season whereas pumpkin beers have much broader reach.
     
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  18. philhyde

    philhyde Crusader (435) Jul 22, 2010 Oregon

    I've seen that one, but been unsure about buying it. If I recall it was kind of expensive. $16?
     
  19. chinochino

    chinochino Initiate (0) Jul 29, 2013 Washington

    IF I decide to have a pumpkin beer in season, it will be Elysian Great Pumpkin. I know they sold out and screwed Dick Cantwell but this is a good beer. And I hope it continues to be good.
     
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  20. westcoastbeergeek

    westcoastbeergeek Initiate (0) Sep 16, 2015 Canada (BC)

    Pumking - tastes like pure liquid pumpkin pie, yet somehow they pulled it off in my opinion. It is sweet, but oddly satisfying.
    Warlock - I poured mine down the drain, insanely cloying and horrendously unbalanced. But, some people swear by it!
     
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