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Discussion in 'Northwest' started by guajolote, Jan 8, 2013.
Van Havig answers that question. Quite hilariously, might I add.
While I fundamentally agree with him (as I suspect everyone on BA will), I'd like to point out that PDX has the highest percentage of craft beer consumption in the country, right around 30%. SEA is at 25%, and SFO is 20%. So, even in PDX, the vast majority of beer consumed, 70%, is from large domestic producers.
Was he drunk too?
The PNW needs to shed a few crappy breweries in my local area.
I'm pretty sure some people have actually asked if we need another coffee shop. Just saying.
In related observations, I notice that a couple out of the 4 Tibetan import stores that opened on Hawthorne last year have since closed.
I think I can get Banh Mi 4 places within walking distance of my office- and I actually applaud that!
That was a little pointless but awesome non the less. Thanks.
Authentic (meaning cheap) Banh Mi, or the trendy $9 things? I'd love having an actual Vietnamese-owned shop nearby so that I could grab a $3 sandwich for lunch, but if I'm going to spend $7-10 on a sandwich I'd rather get a fully loaded sub from East Side instead of something from Double Dragon that leaves me feeling less than full.
I've never had a problem with the sandwiches at DD seeming too small, but your appetite may be larger than mine.
They're tasty sandwiches, I'll give them that. I think mainly it's the ratio of size/price that throws me off. For the amount they charge I could go any number of places and get a 1/2lb burger, something from East Side, or half a pizza from someplace like Lonesome's. I guess I just feel like sandwiches are an "every man" sort of meal and shouldn't cost that much...
Come to think of it, that's probably the main reason I almost never go to Kenny and Zuke's, despite their food being delicious.
edit: to keep this beer-related, we should be getting Peche & Brett in tomorrow.
Not entirely pointless. There are about the same number of brewpubs in walking distance. I would argue more people drink craft beer than eat banh mi. If we can support 4 banh mi places than we should be able to support even more breweries.
Yeah, and I didn't mean to say that I think we're oversaturated with beer. (Although, I do think we've hit saturation of $10+/bomber beers.) Just poking fun at a video that's poking fun.
(Also, FWIW, a lot of the hundreds of Oregon wineries are really small. Like 100-1000 cases total production per year. It makes more sense to compare total production volumes rather than number of wineries vs. breweries.)
In all serious I have heard this question asked every year or so since I moved here in 1996. Hell, the number of breweries and overall beer culture was a main reason I moved here to begin with. I do agree with Kevin on the recent jump in high-end prices. We have already seen a fair amount of resistance to this (example- stores can still get Firestone Walker 15 from the distributor).
I think the biggest concern right now for Oregon breweries is the number of breweries going bigger- from startups Base Camp, pFriem, Crux, Worthy, etc. to expanding breweries 10 Barrel, Breakside, Alameda, Double Mountain, Fort George, etc. we may see too many breweries relying on distribution. The fight for tap handles and shelf space could get vicious.
I don't think we are even close to saturation on brewpubs (I can't easily walk to one from my house which is a huge problem in its own right).
I am always down for more breweries. Bring em on. Gigantic is an awesome brewery and I will support them as much as I can. I can think of 6 breweries, off the top of my head, that I wouldn't miss if they were to go away. Gigantic is not one of them.
Still, was he just spouting off or what. Was there a portion of that video that I didn't see? I am sure that Portland isn't the only place that question gets asked.
I would've been fine with Trade Route going out of business, but they changed their name and bought Three Skulls instead.
I just wish a few new WA breweries would go outside the box and start making more creative beer.
I can think of quite a few I wouldn't miss. Start with all "the Rams" and "BJs". (and give the north gate ram brewer a real job at a real brewery).
Did I accidentally happen upon the SE PDX forum?
Schooner Exact, Two Beers and Fremont are working on it, apparently.
Upright, Laurelwood and Deschuttes arent in the SE, and I still love going to Lucky Lab beer hall, but I did instantly think this was a PDX forum question
Probably. I'm beginning to look at them like coffee stands; they all begin to look and taste the same, they scratch an itch, and every once in a while you find a stand whose people put out a good product, and you keep going back provided they don't change up the talent or go broke until you can find the next decent place. Any more it is tough to find a place that doesn't over-bourbon their BAs, over produce IPAs (so the hops fade once you find them), or serve up anemic and thin big beers with too much heat. Just like everyone goes to Starbucks for the quotidian cup-o-joe, the same could be said about a lot of the breweries around here. I dunno, maybe going to Little Rock for a bit will force me to reevaluate whether or not I have become jaded to the PNW beer scene.
I will trade Burnside and Breakside for Fremont and Black Raven.
I wouldn't trade Breakside for just about anything. Wow.
Don't even think about it!!! They belong to us!!! You can't have them! Maybe we can talk if you give up Hair of the Dog and Cascade.....
You can have flat of the dog.
how about we trade you scuttle butt or diamond knot for fort george Even better, georgetown AND Mac n jacks for deschutes
Grey Parrot for Hair of the Dog. Grey Parrott is so exclusive and rare that to the naked eye, they appear to have gone out of business. That's just how hard it is to get their beers.
You can have Cascade. Let us know when you can send Fremont or Black Raven down. Hair of the Dog and Upright are off limits, though.
We'll give you Bellevue (the whole damn city), and throw in Kent, Sedro-Wooley, and Aberdeen. You give us Bend. Fair deal, amirite?
I would take Cascade for Black Raven.
I assume, if we're willing to give you Red Peak, we can just name our own price.
I read a year or so ago that beers brewed in Oregon accounted for 40% of all draft beer sales.
Is PDX behind the rest of us hayseeds?
My recollection was that the 40% figure was just draft beer, and the 25-30% figure includes package and draft.
You really aren't supposed to be talking about that...
No. There are too few bars that rotate their beers regularly enough or willing to take a chance on something different.
I like things the way they are. What is all this trade bullshit?
Well, OK. They can have Red Peak for Pelican.