Is this crush acceptable?

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by redmaw, Dec 24, 2020.

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  1. redmaw

    redmaw Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2013 Pennsylvania

    I got pre-milled grain from an online retailer. When prepping for a brew day tomorrow I noticed a lot of seemingly un-crushed grain. I don't have a mill, so I'm not sure what my options are here, but is this worth brewing with?

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    I am not too concerned about squeezing out all of the possible effeciency, but I wanted to make sure I'm not wasting my time either.

    Thanks for the help, sorry for the noob question, I haven't brewed in a year and I can't remember if it looked like this before.
     
  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I am pretty sure you already know this but: the grains in your palm are uncrushed.

    Do you have an estimate of what percentage of your product is uncrushed? Those grains which are uncrushed will not be properly converted during mashing.

    Cheers!
     
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  3. redmaw

    redmaw Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Thanks Jack, I did try to pick the most pristine grains, buy yeah ,I figured they were un-crushed. Its hard to out a number on it, and I don't have the grain sitting in front of me (it's in the basement, I'm trying to get my kid to sleep). That said, maybe a third. Probably better to look at the bowl picture, but it seemed like a lot to me.

    My decision is do I start brewing bright and early tomorrow as planned, or take drastic actions, like seeing if the lhbs is open and will let me use their mill (I didn't purchase from them so awkward to say the least) .
     
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  4. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Do you have access to a food processor? I have used a cuisinart to grind grains in the past. You'd probably have to do it in batches. It would improve the efficiency. Too fine and you risk a stuck sparge, unless you are BIAB. But you don't need to powderize things
     
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  5. redmaw

    redmaw Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2013 Pennsylvania

    I'm leaning towards just using it as is. I looked at it again and think a third is an over estimate. I attempted to get a better picture as well. [​IMG]
     
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  6. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Regardless of which picture, that's a lousy crush. You can certainly brew with it, but expect poor mash efficiency.
     
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  7. 60Watts

    60Watts Initiate (0) Jun 9, 2015 Massachusetts

    The meat tenderizer will gladly come out of its one use a year slumber and help you with your problem. Dump some grain in a bag or saran wrap and make sure it knows who's boss.
     
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  8. redmaw

    redmaw Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2013 Pennsylvania

    I guess I'm trying to get a feel for how bad the efficiency will be. Are we talking a 5 point drop, or 30. I can handle one the other would be pretty disappointing.
     
  9. redmaw

    redmaw Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Thanks this is what I ended up doing. About 10000 batches in the world's smallest food processor to get through 17 lbs of grain. What a pain.

    Thanks for the replies guys.
     
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  10. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
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    I encourage you to have the retailer share some of the pain. Maybe send him the photo and explain how you'll be posting a negative review if he doesn't make it good. Hopefully will prevent other Brewers from getting burned.
     
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  11. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    get your own mill. These precrushed grains are always notoriously undercrushed so you have to buy more grain and so you don’t get stuck sparge.
     
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  12. redmaw

    redmaw Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2013 Pennsylvania

    I intend to, particularly because they charge a few extra $ to mill it.
     
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  13. redmaw

    redmaw Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Its crossed my mind. I've thought about it that last few years, but I only brew a few times a year, so it was hard to justify a couple hundred dollars to save a few bucks a batch. I might going forward just to avoid this hassle though
     
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  14. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    A cereal killer is 99 dollars usually. Maybe you would brew more, up to you.
     
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  15. butterygold

    butterygold Devotee (343) May 12, 2020 Spain

    Before I bought a mill (well worth it), and after a similar food processor experience to yours, somebody suggested using a rolling pin.
     
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  16. Brewday

    Brewday Zealot (721) Dec 25, 2015 New York

    Those grains look like they had moisture or were stale and pressed between the rollers.
     
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  17. beershrine

    beershrine Pundit (819) May 29, 2004 Idaho

    Corona mills work fine. It takes a little diy but 95% efficiency I will upload a photo when possible,
     
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