Is trashing pumpkin beers hypocritical for some?

You, sir, are history's greatest monster.

 

Pumpkin beers are disgusting. I don't question the taste of anyone who likes them, but I do question their moral character.

 

It's funny this thread brings up a distinction between pumpkin beers and flavored stouts since most pumpkin beers are usually either of an amber or brown base, yet the pumpkin beers I like the most are stouts and aren't as common. Crown Valley Imperial Pumpkin Stout is my favorite because it has a high ABV, a strong malt base and an intense spice quality while all somehow being balanced. I think that's why people like DFH Punkin so much too, because it has a big malt backbone that supports the spices. Another honorable mention can actually go to Ballast Point's Pumpkin Down which is a Scottish ale base with pumpkin flavorings, also quite enjoyable.

 

I have tried a few beers made with nuts (not malt that has a "nutty" taste) and my experience is they have had no nut flavor, or an unpleasant flavor. There have been a few peanut (not a nut so I list it separately) beers made with dried peanut butter that have had a good peanut flavor, but they don't seem to be popular. I think my favorite of this kind was G.O.R.P. by Carton.

 

I will mention that I like them, the more pumpkin flavor/less spice the better, even though it is likely to confirm rather than deny your moral character premise

 

The OP's wording choice was very clever to get people all worked up on the forum board.

My take on Pumpkin beers:
Pumpkin beer - Something to add some "spice" to a beer drinker's life.

 

I've had a lot of pumpkin beers, trying every one I can get my hands on - and I have only found one or two that are just OKish. Avery Pump[ky]n is one of the better ones. Avery Rumpkin sounded good but tasted like they filled a bottle with sugar, then put in as much beer as would still fit. Boulevard Funky Pumpkin is fine if you're into drinking straight vinegar. Still need to try the offerings from Schlafly, Dogfish Head, and Cigar City. I'm resigned to the idea that I should just have some pumpkin pie, and wash it down with one of my favorite non-pumpkin beers.

 

The cliche bashing of pumpkin beers is just annoying. If you don't like something, fine... But there seems to be a weird click of people that just feel the need to reinstate their hate for pumpkin beers over and over and over again. Yet will have no issue downing an imperial stout loaded with cinnamon, vanilla, coffee, chilies, etc... So to me, yeah, that is a bit hypocritical.

I don't love pumpkin beers personally, but don't hate the good ones either. I am good for maybe 2-3 bottles or something a year in October.

 

Lazy Magnolia makes a Souther Pecan brown I've had before. Not a porter, but definitely has the pecan pie sweetness for sure. Definitely not for everyone.

 

To finally answer OPs question

If you drink pumpkin beer and bash on people that do - hypocritical (obviously)

If you don’t drink pumpkin beer but drink strawberry milkshake IPAs / chocolate chili stouts, and bash on pumpkin beers because they contain extra flavoring ingredients (“do you even like the taste of beer bro?”) - hypocritical

If you don’t drink pumpkin beer but drink the above stated beers, and bash on pumpkin beers because you don’t like the taste of pumpkin (or pumpkin pie / associated spices etc) - not hypocritical (just pointless)

 

Lazy Magnolia brewing Southern Pecan Nut Brown Ale actually does if you're interested through I'd be mildly surprised if you are.

 

Actually one of the ones that had an unpleasant nut flavor to me. I would happily try it again, as always the chance of an old or off bottle that first try.

 

Yes. Yes, yes, yes.

I didn't know I was part of a clique, but I was aware that I was both weird and annoying.

 

I admire positive attitude in a man but this beer proves to me that innovation is not always a good idea. Roasted Pecans accompanied by a solid Brown Ale is actually a good match so long as the two arrive in different containers.

 

Yep, innovation does not mean good (or bad). But then it never did, since it really only means "new" and/or "different."

But as someone once pointed out:

"In order to attain the impossible, one must attempt the absurd." --Miguel de Cervantes

 

Well, it's been since last winter that she has made it. Obviously, lasagna noodles with layers of pumking puree, some sort of nuts (pine nuts?), and various layers of cheeses (maybe one layer fontina and one ricotta?), and then covered with Parmesan. there is the option to layer in some greens (spinach or swiss chard) if you are into that.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the original. Just a way to switch things up. variety is the spice of life or something like that.

EDIT: Yes, my wife and i are both part Italian. For the record, I generally do not like pumpkin beers.

 

That sounds rather good.

 

Tilting at windmills certainly qualifies as both impossible and absurd. Recognizing the brewer's aim is more mundane, simply making money, I feel some of them spin the word 'innovation' when what's really happening is 'lack of ideas'.

 

Not being a mind reader, I can’t say what goes on in the Brewer’s mind, but what I can say is that one characteristic of many folks who are recognized as as having been creators, not just innovators, is that their good ideas and successes typically occur against a background of hard work and having lots of ideas that didn’t work. Sort of a process of guided trial and error. Often the significance of their work is only recognized after the fact.

 

So, it looks like the pumpkin puree takes the place of the tomato sauce. That, actually, sounds amazing. . .