Islay Off?

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  1. Schmittymack

    Schmittymack Pooh-Bah (1,864) Sep 3, 2008 Colorado
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    Got a message today from the Mrs's son that he opened his bottle of Avery Islay tonight and said it had a funky taste and was wondering if Avery had a bad batch. I haven't opened any of mine yet so only thing I could tell him was that I wasn't aware of anything but I'd ask here. Has anyone else noticed a problem or off taste with these? I'll try one of mine during my break but wanted other opinions. THANKS...
     
  2. Jasonrm72

    Jasonrm72 Maven (1,386) Apr 29, 2012 Colorado
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    Let's hope not, but I haven't opened a bottle yet either. Might have to this weekend.
     
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  3. Canada_Dan

    Canada_Dan Initiate (0) Jun 14, 2013 Colorado

    Opened a bottle last weekend at my buddy's bachelor party. Opinions varied, but I didn't get any off flavors from it. Tasted very similar to how it was on draught at Avery IMO.
     
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  4. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    Haven't tried it, but that beer seems to be divisive. Not in an "it's off" way, but some people just don't like that flavor profile at all.
    Heard similar opinions of scotch barrel beers at Blue Moon and the B&B, too. People either love 'em or detest 'em.
     
  5. spoony

    spoony Pooh-Bah (2,591) Aug 1, 2012 Colorado
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    I have tried Islay and the Blue Moon scotch barrel aged beer...I like scotch, but I would not drink either beer again. No "off" or "infected" flavors, but both were way too heavy on the bandaid/iodine flavor (trying for that smokey peat note, I assume).

    I just did not like the flavor imparted by the BA process.
     
  6. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    I haven't had Islay, but I would agree. I also get a phenolic band-aid thing that seems to be coming from the barrel or the former contents. Not a fan of any Scotch BA beer (peaty or otherwise) I've had. I respect that some folks love 'em, but they're just not for me.
     
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  7. spoony

    spoony Pooh-Bah (2,591) Aug 1, 2012 Colorado
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    I recall the scotch barrel J. Marie from River North had a more subtle touch than the Blue Moon or Avery beers. Might be because J. Marie is lighter and they didn't feel the need to overcome a stout base beer but I dunno for sure.
     
  8. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Thing to keep in mind about Scotch Whisky barrels that were first used for single Malt aging is that there are 4 distinct regions of Scotland and the flavor profiles of malt whiskies can vary a lot depending on the region. One of those unique regions is the island of Islay. The whiskies that come from the 8 distilleries on the island are basically the strongest flavored of all malt whiskies and are generally characterized by their dryness and their strong peaty smokiness (the barley may be malted using burning peat as the source of heat and the water itself comes through peat beds). Some folks describe the flavor of many of those whiskies as being medicinal, idodine like, smoky, having a touch of seaweed etc.. (A few of the distilleries have their barrel aging houses near the ocean and the island is small. The whisky is typically aged for 12 years and so that seems to affect their flavors.) Generally people tend to either really like or really dislike those Islay whiskies because of the strength and in-your-face character of the flavors. So I know some malt whisky lovers who won't go near an Islay whisky.

    Aging a beer in Islay whisky barrels will definitely get some of those strong peaty flavors into the beer and if you don't care for Islay whiskies you won't like a beer aged in those barrels. While I've not see the Avery yet to try, the only J.W. Lees barrel aged Harvest Ale I've never been willing to try a second time is the one aged in Islay barrels from Lagavulin. So I'm not surpised folks would be polarized by any beer aged in Islay whisky barrels.

    In contrast, the Ola Dubh Reserve series from Harvieston brewery

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/323/41037/

    were aged in Highland Park barrels that had been in use aging whisky for different lengths of time and the flavors of the whisky showed there too, but that profile is much more subtle with only maybe a hint of smoke.

    So I too doubt that the Avery flavors were off and would guess they were probably unexpected.
     
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  9. Schmittymack

    Schmittymack Pooh-Bah (1,864) Sep 3, 2008 Colorado
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    Thanks y'all. I'll pass this on. And I'll crack one tomorrow.
     
  10. Jasonrm72

    Jasonrm72 Maven (1,386) Apr 29, 2012 Colorado
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    Just had one and it tasted the same as on tap on release day. It's definitely peaty, and that can definitely hit some the wrong way. Luckily I don't get band-aid, which I am generally sensitive to. But it wouldn't be surprising if others do.
     
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  11. Schmittymack

    Schmittymack Pooh-Bah (1,864) Sep 3, 2008 Colorado
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    I'll be opening one shortly; I'm anxious to try it. I'll definitely let Pete know what the consensus here is.
     
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